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    B1013 – Nationalisation of British Rail Services Bill 2016, TSR Socialist Party


    Nationalisation of British Rail Services Bill 2016

    A Bill to require the Secretary of State to assume control of passenger rail franchises when they come up for renewal; and for connected purposes.

    BE IT ENACTED by The Queen's most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Commons in this present Parliament assembled, in accordance with the provisions of the Parliament Acts 1911 and 1949, and by the authority of the same, as follows:-

    1: Assumption of control of passenger rail franchises by Secretary of State

    (1) When any existing private rail franchise comes up for renewal, it shall revert to the control of the Secretary of State, who shall allocate it to a public body nominated or established under this section

    (2) Existing private rail franchises shall also revert to the control of the Secretary of State, if the Secretary of State considers that it would be more economic and efficient for a franchise to be operated by a public body nominated by the Secretary of State.

    (3) The Secretary of State may by order establish a public body to take control of one or more passenger rail franchises, or may by order nominate an existing public body to do so, and in either case the order may make provisions for the appointment and governance of such a body.

    (4) In respect of existing Scotrail passenger services the public body referred to above will be nominated by the Scottish Government.

    (5) In respect of existing Wales and Borders passenger services the public body referred to above will be nominated by the Secretary of State in consultation with the Welsh Assembly Government.

    (6) The existing public body or new public body described in subsection (3) above may operate railway freight services and control railway infrastructure, rolling stock and associated functions if the Secretary of State believes it is economic and efficient for it to do so.

    2: Repeal of section 25 of the Railways Act 1993
    Section 25 of the Railways Act 1993 (Passenger services to be subject to franchise agreements) is repealed.

    3: Orders
    (1) The Secretary of State may by order amend the Railways Act 1993 to make provisions consequential on Sections 1 or 2 of this Act.
    (2) A statutory instrument containing an order under this Act may not be made unless a draft of it has been laid before and approved by resolution of each House of Parliament.

    4: Financial provision
    There is to be paid out of money provided by Parliament—
    (a) any expenditure incurred under or in consequence of this Act by the Secretary of State, and
    (b) any increase attributable to this Act in the sums payable under any other Act out of money so provided.

    5: Duty for public provision of rail services from commencement
    From the commencement of this Act, no new franchise may be awarded to a body other than one nominated or established under Section 1.

    6: Short title, commencement and extent
    (1) This Act may be cited as the Railways Nationalisation Act 2016.
    (2) This Act comes into force on the day on which it is passed
    (3) This Act extends to Great Britain (England, Wales and Scotland).

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    Glossary:
    • Rail franchises; the DfT awards contracts to private companies granting them the right to carry out rail services in a specified part of the country. Currently, the contract is given to the company offering the best services for the least amount of money.
    • Rail franchise assets; when a company takes over a franchise, the assets needed to run rail services within that franchise are given to them for the duration of their contract - for instance, rolling stock.
    • Directly Operated Railways; this is the holding company founded by the DfT for the purpose of running rail services on a franchise where private companies have not offered to. It took over the East Coast Main Line in September 2009 and has since presided over a period of profit growth and increased customer satisfaction.
    This Bill would make rail service providers accountable to the voting public, and ensure that any profits made from the running of commercial services were invested in improving the quality of service.

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    Saracen's Fez - got the update tonight, think I need to be removed from usergroup.
    Edit: Scrap that, removed myself. :yy:
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    Ha no, I like good rail services tyvm.
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    (Original post by iEthan)
    Saracen's Fez - got the update tonight, think I need to be removed from usergroup.
    Edit: Scrap that, removed myself. :yy:
    Yep, I was really waiting on thehistorybore to re-apply first.
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    (Original post by Saracen's Fez)
    Yep, I was really waiting on thehistorybore to re-apply first.
    He's a dependable guy… sometimes.
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    No, nationalisation does not work, but this bill is missing information because it does not place a price on obtained rolling stock which is not owned by the government, and it does not account for inefficiencies the government will create.
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    A bit of a mix up with DMc and Fez on which version to use meant the costings got missed out, here they are:

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    Expenditure: £9.9 billion per annum:
    Rolling stock: £1.3 bn,
    NW charges: £1.4 bn,
    TOC shareholder leakages: £1 billion

    Income: £10 billion p.a.

    Profit margin: <£1.5 billion p.a.

    A misunderstanding has arisen that if the Government were to reclaim a franchise before it ended, it would incur a financial cost in the form of loss of premium payments from the train operator. This is not in fact the case. No money would be lost to Government under these circumstances, because direct Government operation of the franchise would capture any profits that would have funded TOC premium payments. To the contrary, should the Government take over a moneymaking franchise there would be an increase in income, since profit leakage to TOC shareholders would be eliminated.

    http://orr.gov.uk/statistics/publish...mation-2014-15
    http://www.transportforqualityoflife... nt_version.pdf
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    No, nationalisation does not work, but this bill is missing information because it does not place a price on obtained rolling stock which is not owned by the government, and it does not account for inefficiencies the government will create.
    What do you mean, the state is the most efficientz0r thing evah!
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    No, nationalisation does not work, but this bill is missing information
    A strong assertion without evidence to back it up.

    Aye.
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    Never! We should be letting private companies own and be responsible for their own regions of railway, so one private company operates the services, manages the rolling stock, and carries out maintenance for their area, instead of the system we have now.
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    (Original post by Mactotaur)
    A strong assertion without evidence to back it up.

    Aye.
    The reporting on the Italian train crash implied that head on collisions are far from uncommon in Italy, on our far more extensive network how long was it since the last severe incident? How heavily loss making is the Greek network, despite being tiny?
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    And a strong Nay from me ... The government should be as small as possible . There is no good reason for the government to take control when a private company does a decent job . As Jammy said i want good rail services
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    Aye- would like to see some improvements for a second reading which I will detail shortly.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Ha no, I like good rail services tyvm.
    British Rail is a mess and horribly inefficient as it is.

    Everyone in Britain could tell a tale of woe about cancelled services, delays, a ruined Christmas or having to stand outside a toilet all the way from Newcastle to Edinburgh. Last year, 400,000 angry tweets were sent by commuters to the 14 train companies that run services into London. Of those, 62,352 featured the words “crowd” “no seat” and “sardine”. The UK’s train service is rubbish and everyone knows it.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...-10076070.html

    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    The reporting on the Italian train crash implied that head on collisions are far from uncommon in Italy, on our far more extensive network how long was it since the last severe incident? How heavily loss making is the Greek network, despite being tiny?
    Trying to compare the UK to Italy or even Greece and that their operation would be somehow similar is a ridiculous claim.
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    Suggestions for a second reading:
    Network Rail reverts to the Secretary of State and has a plan for transferring operations to a unified railway
    Isle of Wight Council has control of rail services in the Isle of Wight
    Transport for London has control of local services in London
    Cornwall Council has control of local services in Cornwall
    Assumption of control can be brought forward for any franchise where under 90% of services run on time over three consecutive four week periods.*
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    British Rail is a mess and horribly inefficient as it is.

    Everyone in Britain could tell a tale of woe about cancelled services, delays, a ruined Christmas or having to stand outside a toilet all the way from Newcastle to Edinburgh. Last year, 400,000 angry tweets were sent by commuters to the 14 train companies that run services into London. Of those, 62,352 featured the words “crowd” “no seat” and “sardine”. The UK’s train service is rubbish and everyone knows it.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...-10076070.html
    Except for having one of the cheapest networks in Europe (I invite you to look at prices in France, and Germany, which I would hope you will accept aren't too dissimilar) for long distance travel, we have some of the lowest subsidies, and one of the best quality services (only Finland saw higher satisfaction), and to say they have so many more high speed lines, they aren't actually much faster.

    We pay about 40% the subsidies per passenger km than the French, and about a third that of the Germans

    Trying to compare the UK to Italy or even Greece and that their operation would be somehow similar is a ridiculous claim.
    Did I expect anything less? No. How about comparison to the days of British Rail, I guess that;s ridiculous too, right?
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Ha no, I like good rail services tyvm.
    You should be a stand up comedian, infact no I'm sure I've heard that joke before, it got an uproar of laughter infact
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    (Original post by Kay_Winters)
    You should be a stand up comedian, infact no I'm sure I've heard that joke before, it got an uproar of laughter infact
    Glad to know that Labour care so little about the provision of good servivces
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Glad to know that Labour care so little about the provision of good servivces
    Last I checked polls showed the majority of the public backed nationalised train services. And last I checked voters of all persuasions laugh at the state of our rail system. It's a joke, to the extent even the common person complains and laughs about it. Comedians get on stage, say how **** it is and the crowd laps it up, no actual joke needed.
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    (Original post by Kay_Winters)
    Last I checked polls showed the majority of the public backed nationalised train services. And last I checked voters of all persuasions laugh at the state of our rail system. It's a joke, to the extent even the common person complains and laughs about it. Comedians get on stage, say how **** it is and the crowd laps it up, no actual joke needed.
    So are you proposing a referendum on nationalisation of the railways?
 
 
 
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