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    Hi, Im from the States and deferred my admissions into manchester for next fall, and am considering applying to kings and LSE. I will be getting my masters in international relations, (international politics at manchester). Was wondering if anyone could help me in telling me how these universities compare to each other.... I know neither is up to par with LSE, but how do kings and manchester compare to each other? Is manchester considered a good school and how exclusive is it to get acceptance? what are the cities of manchester and london like? any help would be very useful.... Thanks!!
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    Hey, i'm afraid I cant be a huge help, but I got offers from both KCL and Manchester this year, so have looked a little into both. I'd say reputation wise, they are pretty much the same. I chose KCL purely for the fact that i live half an hour away and I want to come home all the time because i'm a big baby lol. Tbh, they are both have very good repuations in the UK, and Manchester is rising fast, or so i've heard. Sorry i cant be of anymore help.
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    Which city is the most appealing to you? Another thing to consider is which course interests you more? Both are big cities that are expensive to live in (although London is the more expensive of the two) and have plenty to offer. London and Manchester are the two most popular student cities so you're bound to find people you get on with.
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    For IR, KCL is way better than Manchester.
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    (Original post by americanguy)
    Hi, Im from the States and deferred my admissions into manchester for next fall, and am considering applying to kings and LSE. I will be getting my masters in international relations, (international politics at manchester). Was wondering if anyone could help me in telling me how these universities compare to each other.... I know neither is up to par with LSE, but how do kings and manchester compare to each other? Is manchester considered a good school and how exclusive is it to get acceptance? what are the cities of manchester and london like? any help would be very useful.... Thanks!!
    Very good question. I know both cities very well. LSE is obviously top notch in the subject you are studying. As for your question, King's and Manchester, it's a difficult call in a lot of aspects.

    Manchester, being the most popular UK university amongst students and the 2nd most populated student town (1st is London) is a very good uni (roughly top 10 ish overall). It's well known in many subject areas including medicine and dentistry as well as social sciences etc. Manchester is also undergoing major expansions after their merger with UMIST in 2004. There are a few new school facilities currently being built (not sure about the progress). Anyway, admission wise, from what i've noticed, has been stricter after the merger as the chairman of the uni aims to make Manchester top 50 world wide by 2020. But these are the undergrads' Im talking about. Surely you will need to to meet the grade requirements to be admitted which I believe is a upper second class for masters. That didn't change as far as I know. A great town for students, cheaper living expenses, excellent night life if not the best in the UK (considering London), and you will meet more British students in Manchester as oppose to King's. Coming from the states, you will probably appreciate the fact of having an airport just right outside the city. Manchester is a city-based uni, meaning it has a compact campus located 5 minutes walk to the city centre.

    King's on the other hand has an edge over Manchester by being in London and carrying the London name (arguablely). But being it london also means that it does not have a campus. It's got buildings here and there far away from each other, depending on where your department is. A good number of international students prefer London than any other places in the UK given its location. It might help when you seek employment in the US after study as most people would know where London is, not so much for Manchester, and there are a lot of American/ Canadian students in King's (well London in general). It's very well known for their medical courses, not so much for business/econ areas. I've just checked, for politics King's ranked higher than Manchester (if you believe league table sorta thing). With the strong £ nowadays you will need to be more 'calculative' living in London.

    You might want to look into staff profile to check if any of them is famous in the US. Overall, I'd say but maybe King's gives you a bit more edge with its name and location, especially if you're returning home to work. It's a bit like choosing between New York and Boston.
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    thanks for your help, i do appreciate it. I checked out several rankings and saw where kings was ranked higher in u.k. but manchester was ranked higher in the world rankings... was also kinda worried about the city of manchester... I just didn't want to get there and then regret not going to London, assuming that i even get accepted into kcl or lse. but thanks again for all the advice... the boston nyc comparion put it in perspective for me.... thanks!!
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    Just so you know, I'm American as well, I was accepted to KCL's MA International Peace and Security but decided to go to LSE. My undergraduate advisor is quite a well-known political scientist and thought KCL was relatively strong in IR. MA IPS is in the law school, which is one of the college's best departments, and the IR course is in War Studies, which is probably the college's best department overall.

    So yeah--KCL for sure would win it.
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    Keep in mind, though, that even if you do take those league tables seriously, they're mostly aimed at undergraduates. Since you're applying for graduate study, it might make more sense for you to focus on where your interests are, i.e. look mainly at what courses / faculty members seem most relevant to what you want to do.
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    (Original post by hobnob)
    Keep in mind, though, that even if you do take those league tables seriously, they're mostly aimed at undergraduates. Since you're applying for graduate study, it might make more sense for you to focus on where your interests are, i.e. look mainly at what courses / faculty members seem most relevant to what you want to do.
    That's a very good point.
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    (Original post by americanguy)
    thanks for your help, i do appreciate it. I checked out several rankings and saw where kings was ranked higher in u.k. but manchester was ranked higher in the world rankings... was also kinda worried about the city of manchester... I just didn't want to get there and then regret not going to London, assuming that i even get accepted into kcl or lse. but thanks again for all the advice... the boston nyc comparion put it in perspective for me.... thanks!!
    No problem. Do ask away if you have more questions.

    Manchester's ranked higher because it's a much bigger university that is doing pretty well in all sorts of subjects, whereas King's concentrates on a few specialisations that they are better at. You would probably want to check RAE http://www.rae.ac.uk/ to give you an idea of the department quality.
    If you're coming from a big city, you will probably prefer London as there are countless of things to do there. Depends on what you're after. New York and Boston, you got the point. LSE should really be on the top of your list though, I think you already know that.
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    I got neg repped for saying KCL is better than Manchester for IR :confused:
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    (Original post by shady lane)
    I got neg repped for saying KCL is better than Manchester for IR :confused:
    It happens, of course the fact that KCL's department of war studies is so famous that even I, a humble scientist, have heard of it should tell a prospective student all they need to know about where to go for that area of IR.
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    Dont you just hate it when people give out neg rep just because they disagree with you. Take it out on the table wimps.
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    Being from Liverpool (neighbour to Manchester) but having studied in London, I would say that, culturally, Manchester has a lot more to offer. From my experience, London offers a very individualised experience where no one ever, and I mean ever, speaks to their neighbours or anything. Excluding your sterotypical Cockney, Mancunians are infintely more open, honest and friendly. (And no, I don't have a scouse accent)

    Plus people say that London will be more expensive, but I'd go as far as to say that in real terms you're looking at around 50% more to live in London.

    You can do London in a weekend tourist trip-go to Manchester. And thats very hard for for a Liverpudlian to say!
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    KCL, easy.
 
 
 

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