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    Hello all, The link is to a petition for a public inquiry into the lies that were told by both sides during the EU referendum campaign.https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/139525 Regardless of which side you voted for, both sides told lies, which left a lot of people unable to make an informed decision. A public enquiry can help to create a "single point of truth" to expose the lies and hold the liars to account. I have never seen so many blatant lies told by politicians in such a short space of time, which have then been exposed so quickly, this is an excellent chance to do something to prevent politicians from being able to misinform in future. Hopefully changes can be made so that any future "biggest decision in a generation" is campaigned fairly, so that the electorate can make an honest and informed decision. Please sign it and share. Thanks
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    GLWTP.

    Just out of interest, did you vote remain?
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    (Original post by Bloodypolitics)
    Hello all, The link is to a petition for a public inquiry into the lies that were told by both sides during the EU referendum campaign.https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/139525 Regardless of which side you voted for, both sides told lies, which left a lot of people unable to make an informed decision. A public enquiry can help to create a "single point of truth" to expose the lies and hold the liars to account. I have never seen so many blatant lies told by politicians in such a short space of time, which have then been exposed so quickly, this is an excellent chance to do something to prevent politicians from being able to misinform in future. Hopefully changes can be made so that any future "biggest decision in a generation" is campaigned fairly, so that the electorate can make an honest and informed decision. Please sign it and share. Thanks
    Sorry, but in politics there is no objective criteria for what is a lie and what is the truth, it can be quite subjective and I think moving to the point where we have public inquiries over political rhetoric can set a dangerous precedent against freedom of speech and freedom of expression. If politicians lie, call them out and call their bluff by voting against them on the ballot box.
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    I won't be signing it as it adds to the remain narrative even if you don't mean it to.


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    So like every general election then?
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    (Original post by KimKallstrom)
    So like every general election then?
    If only it was, but brexiters are insisting its once in a life time.... The level of honesty has to be so much higher. If they change there mind and say its "just for a 3 or 4 year trial" then fair enough - I think we could all live with that.
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    That's politicians for you.

    I tend to automatically assume they're talking bollox.
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    People voted the right way for the wrong reasons.*
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    (Original post by Bloodypolitics)
    Hello all, The link is to a petition for a public inquiry into the lies that were told by both sides during the EU referendum campaign.https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/139525 Regardless of which side you voted for, both sides told lies, which left a lot of people unable to make an informed decision. A public enquiry can help to create a "single point of truth" to expose the lies and hold the liars to account. I have never seen so many blatant lies told by politicians in such a short space of time, which have then been exposed so quickly, this is an excellent chance to do something to prevent politicians from being able to misinform in future. Hopefully changes can be made so that any future "biggest decision in a generation" is campaigned fairly, so that the electorate can make an honest and informed decision. Please sign it and share. Thanks
    There is no point in this whatsoever. You cannot find objective truth in a matter of political controversy.

    However in the next year or so I expect there will be a Commons select committee enquiry into what went wrong with the referendum process. Why will that be different?

    It will be different because the politicians on the select committee will assume that lying took place and report on how to address this in future votes, elections as well as referendums, accordingly but will not investigate and report on whether lying took place. Select committees are very good at producing unanimous reports from partisan politicians. The way they do this is not to ask politically divisive questions.

    My view is the problems are due to the changing nature of the media.

    The public have come to rely on television and TV companies' websites rather than newspapers for reportage. Newspapers are too slow. The problem is that the BBC, Sky and ITV are put under special restrictions during political campaigns. If the Conservatives say 2+2=4 and Labour say 2+2=5, the BBC must objectively report both viewpoints. The broadcasters must be neutral between truth and falsity.

    The press now sell newspapers on the back of the opinion pieces of their columnists, not their reportage of events. The only exception is celebrity gossip because that is weakly covered by broadcasters. Columnists are inevitably partisan. There is no expectation of neutrality from Christopher Booker or Matthew Paris. No-one sub-edits Christopher Booker's articles to judge if his criticisms of the Family Courts are fair. Although the £350M NHS claim was criticised, it was criticised by people who were, rightly, assumed to have a "side" in the argument. None of the broadsheets ran a front page article by its reporting staff essentially representing as an indisputable fact that the claim was a lie.
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    The French government stated that the Calais agreement depended on continued EU membership. Now they have said tge Calais agreement will continue. It would seem that the French government lied in order to influence the outcome of the referendum. Shall we prosecute the French government? If Donald Trump rushes through a generous FTA with the UK next year, shall we attempt to extradite Barack Obama?

    The referendum was proximally about EU membership but more broadly it was about the credibility of the institutions. If everyone accepted that the institutions are credible then there would have been no referendum. If the credibility of the institutions is in doubt, them appointing a committee to declare their opponents liars will persuade nobody. They are not impartial judges of their own cause.
 
 
 
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