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    So, i am looking to get a new phone but i am stuck between apple(iPhone 5 or Samsung S3 or S4)

    I have looked on eBay and whilst some of their sellers are unreliable, I have seen some good deals(both Samsung S3/S4 and iphone 5) but most phones(apple and Samsung) on there seem to be refurbished which leads me on to a couple of questions:

    1. Do refurbished phones mean used phones?
    2. Can refurbished phones function properly as newly bought phones?
    3. Are refurbished phones known for having scratches/not being in "good condition"? I have seen some labeled as "grade C" which makes me assume, they must have some scratches on there, which the seller does not want you to know.

    I have also looked on Amazon but since they are a standard company their prices are too high compared to the likes of Ebay.

    I just don't know whether to opt for the iphone 5 rather than the Samsung S3/4 or vice versa.

    I have seen some reviews etc but i am still not sure because both look and seem appealing. The Samsung has a big screen, meaning i would enjoy watching videos on it and taking pictures, however, the iphone 5 is portable(it will fit in my pocket) and Siri seems to be functioning better than the Samsung s voice.

    Edit:I guess, i just want advice and answers to the above questions and i don't really know what features i should be looking at besides the screen size and camera quality.
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    1. Yes, used and they have either been broken and fixed or just made up to look new again. If from the manufacturer, they come with a new warranty and things (I know apple do this)
    2. Yes, usually
    3. It depends, I can't speak for ebay I have only had experience buying refurbished from apple. From the apple site refurbished means that they have a new 'shell' so there will be no scratches and are basically brand new.

    Here's the UK refurbished apple site fyi: http://www.apple.com/uk/shop/browse/...ecialdeals/mac

    They don't sell refurbished iPhone but it's just to give some info. I hope this helps?
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    (Original post by amingo26)
    1. Yes, used and they have either been broken and fixed or just made up to look new again. If from the manufacturer, they come with a new warranty and things (I know apple do this)
    2. Yes, usually
    3. It depends, I can't speak for ebay I have only had experience buying refurbished from apple. From the apple site refurbished means that they have a new 'shell' so there will be no scratches and are basically brand new.

    Here's the UK refurbished apple site fyi: http://www.apple.com/uk/shop/browse/...ecialdeals/mac

    They don't sell refurbished iPhone but it's just to give some info. I hope this helps?
    I have seen some refurbished with warranty but unsure with they are scratch and scuff free.
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    Iphones are Sexier in my opinion
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    Depends what you're looking for.
    In terms of camera quality, the iPhone 5 definitely wins against the S4.
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    why do people like IPhones so much when the Samsungs have bigger screen size
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    Neither. You can buy superior phones for similar prices nowadays. The iPhone probably takes a minor lead in how well updated it is because Apple tends to support older devices for longer but both are very outdated devices. A rather key factor is that older iPhones didn't have particularly large storage options available and don't offer a micro SD slot for expansion.

    My general rule when suggesting phones:

    If you just want something that works most of the time, don't care about customisation options, won't be messing with your phone much, don't mind paying a premium relative to the specs you get or just generally prefer Apple over other companies then get an iPhone.

    If you care about the look of your phone (your homescreens, widgets, etc), have some more specialist needs (stylus for example), want to be able to tweak everything until your heart's content, pay an overall more balanced price for components or don't want to be locked into the Apple ecosystem then go for an Android device. The options for Android are far more varied.

    On the whole I don't recommend the iPhone 5 or Galaxy S3 or S4. The Samsungs are super outdated and will have poor performance (I know, I own an S4, the S3 will be horrendous) and while I can't comment on the iPhone I should imagine it'll suffer similar issues. Add to that the fact you're buying refurbished and you wind up with a terrible phone. Granted you might well be paying under £100 for it. Old iPhones had (and to some extent still suffer from) low resolutions and older devices had tiny screen sizes. They're not a good choice for watching videos, especially in HD. Another killer on older phones, their battery life will be horrendous. A much bigger issue on the iPhone with a sealed battery. You can at least replace the Samsung batteries.

    Probably a good idea to post your budget and get decent recommendations. If your budget really is under £100 then I'm sorry but you simply can't afford a decent smartphone. You'll be limited to older, sub par devices that'll plague you with problems and complaints. In this scenario I recommend saving up and buying something decent. Even in the £150-300 range there are some great phones and that's not an unreasonable amount to be spending.

    If you have a higher budget, set something reasonable. I'm not saying buy an expensive £600-800 flagship device. But you get what you pay for with smartphones (usually). Cheap phones are cheap for a reason and on the whole aren't worth having. Save the money, buy an older style brick phone for making calls/texts and wait to buy something reasonable.

    On the whole you can get good deals buying used but avoid buying low grade refurbished. In fact I avoid refurbished altogether as you never know exactly what has been done to them. They may end up costing you more money to repair later.

    If you've got any specific questions, drop them here. In answer to your original questions:

    Refurbished means used and repaired. Something broke, it was repaired and is now being resold.

    Refurbished phones will never work as new phones. Not because they're refurbished but because they're used. Components will wear on phones over time, in particular things like flash storage and batteries. And that's all assuming something hasn't been replaced. If a button or the screen is replaced you can run into all sorts of problems.

    Refurbished means it was repaired. It doesn't specify how much it was used beforehand. The grade refers to the level of damage, higher grades are better quality phones (but still not mint like you'd find in new packaging). Wear can vary from small scratches to dents to missing parts. Be very cautious when buying used or refurbished and get lots of details on the exact condition. If someone hasn't posted a picture of the back for example you may well receive a phone with a scratched back plate. For easiness sake:

    Grade A is basically in very good condition, potentially could be mistaken for new or near new
    Grade B is used but with small signs of wear (small scratches for example)
    Grade C is heavily used, potentially with large damage, scratches and so on
    Grade D (if you see it) is probably junk

    Grading systems are pretty much up to the owner though. They might think a phone with heavy scratches is a grade B, not a grade C. It's not official rankings and you have to decide for yourself if you're willing to take that risk.
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    (Original post by Blackstarr)
    why do people like IPhones so much when the Samsungs have bigger screen size
    Because screen size is a single factor in deciding what phone is perfect for you. I for one see the benefit of a smaller screen size, especially when weighing up the portability aspect of a phone. I leave my Nexus 6P and it's far superior to any other phone that was on the market at the time. But it doesn't fit in any of the pockets on my clothes. My old S4 (and by extension every normal iPhone) would but at the cost of screen size (which I value more than how easily a phone fits in my pocket).

    Other people value smaller size high because it's more manageable. After all why carry the extra size and weight if you don't need the benefits of the screen?

    A vast number of people with Samsungs and iPhones are also just following the crowd and actually have no idea what they're doing. The iPhone is regarded as one of the best phones you can own so naturally everyone follows suit and buys one. Similar story with Samsung when they started making decent flagships.
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    I've got the S4 and it's a pretty good phone. I've had mine for 2 years and so far so good. I'm used to Android's customization options etc. Haven't used an iPhone yet.

    However...

    The phones you are mentioning (iPhone 5, Samsung S3/S4) are all at least 3 years old - the S3 is 4 years old. You're getting to the point whereby app support will start dropping for your phone's OS - not to mention that you won't get any new OS updates. And since apps are made to run on the latest phones, they may start slowing down after updates (though that applies more so to budget, low end devices - and less so to 2012/2013 flagships. I haven't had any problems with app support on my S4.).

    Even 2014/2015 flagships are starting to drop considerably in price, if you can't afford the latest and greatest phones. Plus, there are phones from other brands/companies that give good spec for a lower price (i.e. Google Nexus, and more recently, the OnePlus One/Two).

    My advice would be to give Gofre's Smartphone Guide (stickied somewhere in this forum) a read, then choose a phone from there based on your requirements and budget. You could well get the phones cheaper from eBay, but make sure to get ones that are in good condition, and don't look like they've been beaten up.
 
 
 
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