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    (Original post by Lujubi)
    Like I've said. I'm very happy to learn more about Islam by someone who is knowledgeable and well-informed about Islam.

    And it looks like you've jumped from a little girl getting terrorise to Sharia Law. I don't want Sharia either. I'm no expert on the matter (like I said, I am still learning about Islam) and I suggest you do the same and educate yourself on the matter.

    If you have difficulty translating the Quran, then English versions are available. Although it's very difficult to understand even with English translation (imo).
    I have difficulty reading your posts but I can and have read the quran and the hadith and I know where to look of information about it all.

    But I didn't say you wanted sharia but I did say I've read the quran so I do wonder if you are struggling to understand simple points people are presenting to you
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    (Original post by TercioOfParma)
    Then what does? Nationalism? I think you will find there have been quite a few left wing nationalist movements too. I mean look at the SNP.
    Listen, what you've got to understand here is that the Nazi's were bad, and because they were bad they were by definition right wing. It's a simple matter of fact that Left wing = good and right wing = bad. How are you so stupid you don't realise this.
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    (Original post by limetang)
    Listen, what you've got to understand here is that the Nazi's were bad, and because they were bad they were by definition right wing. It's a simple matter of fact that Left wing = good and right wing = bad. How are you so stupid you don't realise this.
    Of course I know that, I just assume that people aren't regressives when I have a conversation.
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    It wasnt 20 men, it was 1 man. The others allegedly cheered. Its a shameful thing to do regardless of whether this was indeed a racially motivated act or not.

    Somehow, by the grace of extreme patience and tolerance of our superior culture.. deaths from Islamophobia have still not surpassed 0. I suspect having seen the France "hate memorial" this will soon change with islamist attacks taking more and more lives by the day

    A sizeable minority on here have warned and warned you what we are heading too. Fake poo smeared on your face is trivial to islamist attacks and future they will likely agitate
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    (Original post by TercioOfParma)
    I'm dying.
    Wish this were true in the literal sense because you sound like a vile person.

    As for those bringing in muslim fundamentalists and such arguments. Are you really trying to play that card when this happened to a four year old girl? Are you really trying to contextualise this frankly disturbing attack into a geopolitical sphere?

    I can imagine these same people would be the first to make a massive uproar if it were Muslims who attacked a four year old white girl.

    The fact that a post on the first page that basically suggests "so what?" has more likes than any other post on that page, by a good distance, just shows how many vile disgusting ignoramus "educated" folk use this site.
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    (Original post by Qboid)
    Wish this were true in the literal sense because you sound like a vile person.

    As for those bringing in muslim fundamentalists and such arguments. Are you really trying to play that card when this happened to a four year old girl? Are you really trying to contextualise this frankly disturbing attack into a geopolitical sphere?

    I can imagine these same people would be the first to make a massive uproar if it were Muslims who attacked a four year old white girl.

    The fact that a post on the first page that basically suggests "so what?" has more likes than any other post on that page, by a good distance, just shows how many vile disgusting ignoramus "educated" folk use this site.
    I'm sure you'll get over it someday, I can provide some ointment for that butthurt if you wish, or a Qu'ran and some hadiths so you can see how peaceful the religion of peace is.
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    (Original post by BaconandSauce)
    OK to confirm all I have to do is show firstly Islam promotes inequality between its follows and then I can show discrimination to others yes?
    Sort of. You have to prove that this inequality is a bad thing, that your interpretation of said scripture is correct and explain the historical context said scripture was given in.

    Discrimination is not necessarily bad. If given a fist full of excrement and a piece of delicious pie, you would discriminate against the excrement in favor of the pie for food. Inequality is not necessarily bad - some are stronger, some are smarter, some are better looking. Telling a weak man to carry as much as a strong man will mean either the weak will be broken or the strong man's talents be wasted.

    So I expect, as mentioned, proof it is not a scriptural rail split, proof of how it was to be seen in the historical context and proof your interpretation of the scriptures aligns with the majority of the religious followers.

    Just throwing a few direct quotes without the context necessary to understand it would be fruitless. For you or me.
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    "20 Right wing men..."

    Those fiscally responsible, capitalist devils!
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    (Original post by ThatOldGuy)
    Sort of. You have to prove that this inequality is a bad thing, that your interpretation of said scripture is correct and explain the historical context said scripture was given in.

    Discrimination is not necessarily bad. If given a fist full of excrement and a piece of delicious pie, you would discriminate against the excrement in favor of the pie for food. Inequality is not necessarily bad - some are stronger, some are smarter, some are better looking. Telling a weak man to carry as much as a strong man will mean either the weak will be broken or the strong man's talents be wasted.

    So I expect, as mentioned, proof it is not a scriptural rail split, proof of how it was to be seen in the historical context and proof your interpretation of the scriptures aligns with the majority of the religious followers.

    Just throwing a few direct quotes without the context necessary to understand it would be fruitless. For you or me.
    No inequality and discrimination are always a bad thing that you are now arguing it isn't tell me you know what arguments I will use and you are already tiring to play them down
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    What exactly is fake poo?
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    (Original post by BaconandSauce)
    No inequality and discrimination
    Really? So you believe a child molester should be able to be a baby minder? If not, you are discriminating and it also promotes inequality .

    I think inequality is not necessarily a bad thing. And I would definitely discriminate against those who would hurt innocents. The fact that you admit you cannot prove your point within the context I have given suggests to me you have an axe to grind and wouldn't change regardless of evidence.

    A reasonable person who had carefully considered their position would say, "Too much effort." And just walk away. You have admitted that without whatever tired quote you were about to march out is the only argument you have.
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    (Original post by ThatOldGuy)
    Really? So you believe a child molester should be able to be a baby minder? If not, you are discriminating and it also promotes inequality .

    I think inequality is not necessarily a bad thing. And I would definitely discriminate against those who would hurt innocents. The fact that you admit you cannot prove your point within the context I have given suggests to me you have an axe to grind and wouldn't change regardless of evidence.

    A reasonable person who had carefully considered their position would say, "Too much effort." And just walk away. You have admitted that without whatever tired quote you were about to march out is the only argument you have.
    And there you go

    I'm talking about religious based discrimination not pedophilia they are not comparable in any way shape of form.

    But that you have to use pedophilia as your counter is rather telling

    But you see this is the issue I gave a simple statement and now look how far you are going to negate it (discrimination is sometime acceptable)

    A reasonable person would have simply admitted Islam promotes inequality and discrimination but tried to then justify it (without using pedophiles as a starting point)

    So to sum I gave a simple argument which you then (as I expected) have spent a fair few emails trying to squirm out of or move the goal posts

    You see this is why in these discussion is is always better to start with and agree on what what you are trying to achieve first otherwise it's pointless as the posts will simply keep getting moved
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    (Original post by BaconandSauce)
    You see this is why in these discussion is is always better to start with and agree on what what you are trying to achieve first otherwise it's pointless as the posts will simply keep getting moved

    Those words do not mean what you think they mean. Moving the goalposts means I have shifted my position in what I required of your proof. I did not. If you will recall, I gave a very specific set of rules that you would require to prove your point. I never once shifted my position.

    I simply don't want you to trot out some tired old quote that doesn't actually prove what you suggest. I want you to prove it by using the Koran, as you said, and I want you to prove that your interpretation of the quote is correct within the context of the scriptures they use and also the context of the times they were written in. I said that early on and have not moved the goalposts.

    The fact that you are inventing logical fallacies that do not exist is somewhat telling.
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    (Original post by TercioOfParma)
    Yes, they weren't really. I studied them at AS level, they had tons of programs you would probably call socialist, like basic healthcare.

    Heck, look at their own 25 point program

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation...ialist_Program
    I think our friend Mr Cheese assumes that they must have been right-wing because they were mean to some minorities. It is typically illustrative of the unsophisticated levels of political knowledge one finds amongst SJWs.
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    (Original post by swiss_cheese)
    One or two left-wing policies does not make the NAZI PARTY not right wing.
    NAZI PARTY is short for National Socialist German Workers Party. Even in CAPS. Politically, the party was essentially socialist.
 
 
 
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