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    Only 340 comprehensive schools remaining
    sorry if this topic has been posted before but i saw this article and it actually shocked me. i thought comprehensive schools were the standard, and now it seems there are only 340 in england.
    now the government favours specialist schools, academies and grammar schools. surely this isn't fair. i don't have a problem with private schools since these are independent and fund themselves, but selective state schools mean they are skimming off the best students, teachers and resources.
    i don't really understand the point of specialist schools either. so why are we left with so few comprehensive schools, and what are your views on this.
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    I imagine it's more a change of name than a de facto shift.
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    Technology schools/sport colleges/ science community schools/arts specialist colleges/city academies etc are hardly selective. They're just playing the government for all the funding they can.
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    "Playing the government for all the funding they can" is hardly fair.

    I was pretty surprised when I read that article. I honestly don't think specialist schools are a good idea from what I've read about them.
    Secondary education is the time when most students find their way and decide what they want to continue studying. If a school's resources/focus is are weighted towards one area of the syllabus then it's likely that students will be "pushed" into choosing those subjects for further study, or may not develop the liking they would for other subjects if they were taught as well.
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    Specialist schools don't really work like that though - they get as much funding as they can, use the bare minimum on the supposed specialist subject and spend whatever else they can on other resources. The majority of heads are at it. Unfortunately this is how it has to be done now.
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    The major problem is that ‘specialist subject school’ doesn’t change much if you’re comparing it with your bog-standard comprehensive. Indeed, this is only a way for schools to get more funding.

    If we’re talking about less bog-standard comprehensives and more schools which are City Academies, voluntarily aided/voluntarily controlled, or foundation schools, then yes I do agree with what’s happening, and would like to see fewer bog-standard comprehensives and more City Academies, voluntarily aided schools, and foundation schools.

    However, even they’re not ‘selective’ schools as the term is widely understood, meaning selective on the basis of ability, so they’re hardly harming society and the education of future generations.
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    (Original post by blissy)
    Technology schools/sport colleges/ science community schools/arts specialist colleges/city academies etc are hardly selective. They're just playing the government for all the funding they can.
    :ditto:

    Ours funded a lovely new 6th form suite

    Absolutely no change whatsoever in the transition period... and now it's a 'Specialist technology college"...

    ... yeah right :rolleyes: .
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    my cousin goes to a specialist DT school i think and as a result she has had to take DT food for GCSE. how ridiculous. i don't understand why they're pushing schools to specialise. in a lot of places you're pretty much stuck with whatever school's in your catchment area and so you can't exactly choose a speciality, you're just given one.
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    I was shocked until I remembered that my old secondary school recently turned into a specialist school too.
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    I went to a 'specialist sports school', did I do PE? Nope.
    It was a bog standard comprehensive with a fancy name. The Sports equipment wasn't even that good, wasn't even enough ping-pong balls to go round :p:
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    We're a 'community technology college' but it means very little, other than that we're forced into taking a d&t subject, and often pressured into doing it early. Other than that, we're really just a bog standard comprehensive.
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    (Original post by bruisepristine)
    We're a 'community technology college' but it means very little, other than that we're forced into taking a d&t subject, and often pressured into doing it early. Other than that, we're really just a bog standard comprehensive.
    I thought that people were forced to take those subjects across the country. I know I was.
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    (Original post by Andrzej S.)
    The major problem is that ‘specialist subject school’ doesn’t change much if you’re comparing it with your bog-standard comprehensive. Indeed, this is only a way for schools to get more funding.

    If we’re talking about less bog-standard comprehensives and more schools which are City Academies, voluntarily aided/voluntarily controlled, or foundation schools, then yes I do agree with what’s happening, and would like to see fewer bog-standard comprehensives and more City Academies, voluntarily aided schools, and foundation schools.

    However, even they’re not ‘selective’ schools as the term is widely understood, meaning selective on the basis of ability, so they’re hardly harming society and the education of future generations.
    well see i think they are harming others' education since they take money away from comprehensive schools, some of which are ridiculously under funded (eg my own)
    by the way when i was talking about selective i was talking about grammar schools
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    (Original post by chocolatebear)
    well see i think they are harming others' education since they take money away from comprehensive schools, some of which are ridiculously under funded (eg my own)
    by the way when i was talking about selective i was talking about grammar schools
    I do agree that there is a problem where specialist schools receive extra funding (schools which are academies, VA/VC, foundation schools, etc. don’t receive more funding than standard comprehensives on the basis of their status), but unfortunately that’s the new funding game the government is playing – to get more funding, a school must become a subject specialist school (even non-standard comprehensives are becoming specialist schools to receive extra funding).

    Regarding the ‘selective’ point, I understand you meant grammar schools, although there are very few of these left. Indeed, the overwhelming majority of state schools – whether comprehensives, academies, VA/VC, foundation schools, ‘specialist subjects schools’, etc. – are all non-selective on basis of ability.
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    "there is a target for 95% of schools to be specialist or academies by 2008"

    What on earth is the point of that?
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    God knows. Why exactly the government thinks we need so many sportsmen, artists and musicians is equally perplexing, as is why they think who becomes sportsmen, artists and musicians is a decision that should be made at 11 based on where children's parents live and not on any expression of talent or interest in the subjects.
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    I would agree with all those who say that it's simply a change of name. I recently completed my 5 years at a high school that dubbed itself a 'Language College', i.e. that's where it specialises, but it has no real bias towards it, all the subjects seem equal.
 
 
 
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