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Cambridge and year 12 retakes, is it possible???

I'm in year 12, going into year 13 and i resat year 12 due to bad grades (c's and d's). im planning on doing mathematics at university and am considering applying to cambridge. i study maths further maths and physics. assuming in my AS i got a's with over 90 ums, would it be worth applying to cambridge for maths?
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Original post by jonny5263
I'm in year 12, going into year 13 and i resat year 12 due to bad grades (c's and d's). im planning on doing mathematics at university and am considering applying to cambridge. i study maths further maths and physics. assuming in my AS i got a's with over 90 ums, would it be worth applying to cambridge for maths?


Realistically, for Cambridge Maths, unless you've had serious extenuating circumstances, if you aren't breezing through AS-level maths with high As, you're not in with much of a chance. By all means apply, but know that most successful applicants will have flown through A-level Maths/FM with no issues.
Original post by jonny5263
I'm in year 12, going into year 13 and i resat year 12 due to bad grades (c's and d's). im planning on doing mathematics at university and am considering applying to cambridge. i study maths further maths and physics. assuming in my AS i got a's with over 90 ums, would it be worth applying to cambridge for maths?


Most successful applicants would achieve a high 90s average in AS Maths and Further Maths, with few 100 UMS marks, generally in C1, C2 and maybe one other. However, the real reason for this is that admissions tutors just want to gauge which applicants would succeed on the course, and more importantly when applying, whether they can achieve a high mark in STEP. One would still likely get an interview with a low 90 average though, plus no-one really knows their chances of success until applying, so I say go for it! :smile:
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Original post by jonny5263
I'm in year 12, going into year 13 and i resat year 12 due to bad grades (c's and d's). im planning on doing mathematics at university and am considering applying to cambridge. i study maths further maths and physics. assuming in my AS i got a's with over 90 ums, would it be worth applying to cambridge for maths?


As @Helenia said, you would need extenuating circumstances for Cambridge to consider you if you had to resit an entire year. They don't mind 1, or maybe 2, module retakes, but any more will cause you problems.

If you really want to shoot for Cambridge but don't have extenuating circumstances then a post A-level application (with A*A*A at least) would realistically be your only chance.

If you do have extenuating circumstances then you can follow the guidance here:
http://www.undergraduate.study.cam.ac.uk/applying/decisions/extenuating-circumstances-form
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thank you for all your replies. something i forgot to add is that is that this is my 1st time doing further maths ever, and i am currently sitting a different exam board for physics. in theory, i only took 3 exams this year which i took last year.
Reply 5
Original post by jonny5263
thank you for all your replies. something i forgot to add is that is that this is my 1st time doing further maths ever, and i am currently sitting a different exam board for physics. in theory, i only took 3 exams this year which i took last year.


ps: i also am in a college in the bottom 40% in the uk
Reply 6
and i also am teaching myself independently an a2 mechanics unit, and i am covering most a level material in my summer. (a teacher will reference this for me)
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Original post by jonny5263
and i also am teaching myself independently an a2 mechanics unit, and i am covering most a level material in my summer. (a teacher will reference this for me)


All this can be included in the SAQ when (if) you apply. It's only 1 place on your UCAS so if you want to apply go ahead.

But the fact is it will have taken 3 years for you to cover 2 years work. The pace at Cambridge is very intense which is why they don't typically make offers in your situation unless there are extenuating circumstances as I already mentioned.

You will also have to do well at STEP. Have you looked at any STEP papers? Don't worry if they seem hard... they are. But they will also give you an indication of the standard they expect.

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Original post by jneill
All this can be included in the SAQ when (if) you apply. It's only 1 place on your UCAS so if you want to apply go ahead.

But the fact is it will have taken 3 years for you to cover 2 years work. The pace at Cambridge is very intense which is why they don't typically make offers in your situation unless there are extenuating circumstances as I already mentioned.

You will also have to do well at STEP. Have you looked at any STEP papers? Don't worry if they seem hard... they are. But they will also give you an indication of the standard they expect.

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thank you for your reply once again friend, i am (new to it) but familiar with step and how the exams work. for me, attaining the grades isnt the issue, however attaining a offer is what is going to be the hardest part. what does SAQ stand for?
Original post by jonny5263
thank you for your reply once again friend, i am (new to it) but familiar with step and how the exams work. for me, attaining the grades isnt the issue, however attaining a offer is what is going to be the hardest part. what does SAQ stand for?


SAQ = Supplementary Application Questionnaire

http://www.undergraduate.study.cam.ac.uk/applying/saq
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what sort of things can someone in my position do to improve chances of getting an interview
Reply 11
Original post by jonny5263
what sort of things can someone in my position do to improve chances of getting an interview


Beyond what I've already said, maybe ask here:

http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=4217492
Ask an interviewer - Mathematics


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Original post by jonny5263
I'm in year 12, going into year 13 and i resat year 12 due to bad grades (c's and d's). im planning on doing mathematics at university and am considering applying to cambridge. i study maths further maths and physics. assuming in my AS i got a's with over 90 ums, would it be worth applying to cambridge for maths?

I know it's been 7 yrs however, did Cambridge reject you for retaking year 12? I am asking because I am in the same predicament as you where I have to redo yr 12 cos of bad Year 12 mock grades.
Reply 13
Original post by Anonymous #1
I know it's been 7 yrs however, did Cambridge reject you for retaking year 12? I am asking because I am in the same predicament as you where I have to redo yr 12 cos of bad Year 12 mock grades.

Did you get a answer to your question?
Reply 14
Original post by Doones
As @Helenia said, you would need extenuating circumstances for Cambridge to consider you if you had to resit an entire year. They don't mind 1, or maybe 2, module retakes, but any more will cause you problems.
If you really want to shoot for Cambridge but don't have extenuating circumstances then a post A-level application (with A*A*A at least) would realistically be your only chance.
If you do have extenuating circumstances then you can follow the guidance here:
http://www.undergraduate.study.cam.ac.uk/applying/decisions/extenuating-circumstances-form

Hi, I know it's been 7 years but I am unfortunately in the same position. I moved from Germany this year in mid January and started school I am doing Maths and Further maths with Economics, I have mocks coming up and, which will determain my predicted, however I don't really know if I want to sit them, I contacted Cambridge and they told me it wont't count as a resit as long as I don't sit any exams. I am pretty confident that my case would be considered as special as I missed Half of the year stuff and now confronted with upcoming exams...Could you give any advice in regards to that?
I want to study Mathematics at Uni, and I am pretty confident that I will meet the entry requirements next year as I am getting along well with Maths and Further Maths, however looking at Economics I am again not sure about that.
I have also found a new school where I will study Maths, Further maths, Physics and German. Do I just take this year as a Gap yearand see it as a oppertunity?
Reply 15
Original post by IVEX18
Did you get a answer to your question?

The OP hasn't posted since 2017, so it's unlikely (unless their account still sent them notifications and they somehow communicated privately) :smile:
Reply 16
Original post by chavvo
The OP hasn't posted since 2017, so it's unlikely (unless their account still sent them notifications and they somehow communicated privately) :smile:

So what‘s your plan?
Speaking from personal experience, retakes, while likely to harm your applications are not a deal breaker. If you had some extenuating circumstances especially. AS UMS are not the best predictor for many subjects including maths tripos where GCSEs are better, but I guess the thing with maths is no pre admissions exam. Wish courses with pre admissions exams you could especially show higher performance than your as would suggest.
I myself had some extenuating circumstances, though I feel like not too strong, and ended up getting grade below standard requirements in each one of my 3 subjects. Yet I received an offer this year conditional on my a level retake grades.
Reply 18
Original post by IVEX18
So what‘s your plan?

Er, I don't need a "plan" - I was just pointing out that you were unlikely to get a reply from the OP after all this time :smile:
Reply 19
Original post by chavvo
Er, I don't need a "plan" - I was just pointing out that you were unlikely to get a reply from the OP after all this time :smile:

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