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    I am interested in teaching but don't want to work in secondary school. my dream is to teach adults in the community, however I am finding it hard to gain experience in colleges as a tutor and learner support.

    I have tried gaining placements in primary schools as I have thought about the special education as I have six months paid work helping adults with Autism in Arts n Crafts, Dance and Drama etc and really enjoyed it, but the funding ran out, Then the dole allowed me to be an IT Coach for a while, I nearly had a tutor job for the local county but the other tutor told me he couldn't take me on as I had Level 3 PTLLS and not Level4, I have enquired about the Level4 at Colleges but you need experience and no one will help me. Even when I have asked for experience I get knocked back for no reason. I tried to get on PCET but they rejected me. I have been offered one n half hour volunteer work helping out in Job Clubs, but it's not teaching or learner support, It feels as thought I'm going in Circles.
    I have applied for TA work but the Agencies told me to get experience as I have Level 3 TA which I studied online. I am studying about Dyslexia and Dyslexia therapy online gaining knowledge and understanding but its getting the experience.
    One school told me that I should be gaining experience in Secondary rather than primary but I don't want to go that route, I'd rather work with Adults or 3 - 11 years.
    I have seen MA courses for Special needs, but dont know if I would qualify as I have little experience.

    Any advice much appreciated
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    The bottom line is that you have been told that you will have to get TA experience in secondary if you want to move into adult learning and support. There's no shortcut on offer. You don't have the right qualifications or background to get straight into your chosen field, so you'll have to work your way through some initial stages in order to get there. You would certainly need more qualificatons and/or professional experience to get into a Masters.

    It's like any other career - you usually need to do a series of jobs you don't necessarily want, in order to end up at your ultimate goal. If you're not willing to do that, then you don't want it badly enough - and it sounds like you do
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    (Original post by Klix88)
    The bottom line is that you have been told that you will have to get TA experience in secondary if you want to move into adult learning and support. There's no shortcut on offer. You don't have the right qualifications or background to get straight into your chosen field, so you'll have to work your way through some initial stages in order to get there. You would certainly need more qualificatons and/or professional experience to get into a Masters.

    It's like any other career - you usually need to do a series of jobs you don't necessarily want, in order to end up at your ultimate goal. If you're not willing to do that, then you don't want it badly enough - and it sounds like you do
    I have thought of BA Hons in Education but I don't know how I would fund it as I have a degree in Applied Information Technology. I understand what your saying about gaining work in secondary school, its just that im used to working with post 16 students. I have worked with 16 -18 years in my support role in a charity.
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    (Original post by Jessica 321)
    I have thought of BA Hons in Education but I don't know how I would fund it as I have a degree in Applied Information Technology.
    With a degree, you could do a funded PGCE. You don't need to do another undergrad degree in order to get into education.

    I understand what your saying about gaining work in secondary school, its just that im used to working with post 16 students. I have worked with 16 -18 years in my support role in a charity.
    If that's what you have to do to achieve your ultimate goal, then you need to consider just doing it anyway. There's no magic answer to your situation.

    Have you looked at NHS routes into the type of field you're looking at? Drama therapy and music therapy are specialisms and it's possible that there are no opportunities for the type of work you want to do beyond what you've already done (temporary funding/unpaid volunteer) without some pretty heavyweight training. Info here:
    *https://www.healthcareers.nhs.uk/exp...s-and-training
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    (Original post by Klix88)
    With a degree, you could do a funded PGCE. You don't need to do another undergrad degree in order to get into education.


    If that's what you have to do to achieve your ultimate goal, then you need to consider just doing it anyway. There's no magic answer to your situation.

    Have you looked at NHS routes into the type of field you're looking at? Drama therapy and music therapy are specialisms and it's possible that there are no opportunities for the type of work you want to do beyond what you've already done (temporary funding/unpaid volunteer) without some pretty heavyweight training. Info here:
    *https://www.healthcareers.nhs.uk/exp...s-and-training
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    Thanks, I have been looking at courses further a field and shall be applying, I might be late to apply for them, If I am I shall work on my maths and gain more experience and add another qualification and apply for 2017.
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    Why not go straight for PGCE in FE?
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    (Original post by S27)
    Why not go straight for PGCE in FE?
    I have applied at my local university and college and they rejected me but I have found two more unis further afield by train that offer pgce in FE, pre service I will apply for. Theres other possibilities, but I only have one year of funding left.

    The other posibility is to study another A level, like English and retake my maths to gain a C and then reapply to the other unis
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    (Original post by Jessica 321)
    I have applied at my local university and college and they rejected me but I have found two more unis further afield by train that offer pgce in FE, pre service I will apply for. Theres other possibilities, but I only have one year of funding left.
    You either have enough funding for the full PGCE or none for more undergrad study. I don't think you have "one year of funding left", whichever direction you go.
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    PGCE funding is completely separate to undergrad Student Finance and the latter has no impact on your eligibility for the former. You will be able to get funding for the full course.

    If you already have an undergrad degree, then you won't be able to get any more funding for undergrad-level study.

    The other posibility is to study another A level, like English and retake my maths to gain a C and then reapply to the other unis
    Ah - if it's entry requirements holding you back, then it might be better to go that route as long as your target unis have confirmed that this will give you a better shot at your chosen course.
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    [QUOTE=Klix88;66596660]You either have enough funding for the full PGCE or none for more undergrad study. I don't think you have "one year of funding left", whichever direction you go.
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    PGCE funding is completely separate to undergrad Student Finance and the latter has no impact on your eligibility for the former. You will be able to get funding for the full course.

    If you already have an undergrad degree, then you won't be able to get any more funding for undergrad-level study.


    Ah - if it's entry requirements holding you back, then it might be better to go that route as long as your target unis have confirmed that this will give you a better shot at your chosen course.[\QUOTE]

    I just noticed that the Universities want 2:1 or above, I have 2:2, I could have had a 2:1 but I had a few problems in Second year and went part time. I have just emailed one of the Universities but I don't think I will hear from them till September.
    Is there any chance I could get in with 2:2 or shall I focus on something else entirely for a master's.
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    (Original post by Jessica 321)
    I just noticed that the Universities want 2:1 or above, I have 2:2, I could have had a 2:1 but I had a few problems in Second year and went part time. I have just emailed one of the Universities but I don't think I will hear from them till September.
    A 2:1 is a standard requirement at Masters level, but some will accept a 2:2. It might also be worth looking into starting out on a PGDip, which usually requre a 2:2 or higher. It's the first two taught terms at Masters level. Some will permit you to progress to the final term and a full Masters if you get good resuts for the PGDip.

    Is there any chance I could get in with 2:2 or shall I focus on something else entirely for a master's.
    From what I've seen of education-based Masters courses, your main problem may be that they are generally seen as professonal development qualifications. They are aimed at those already working in education

    If you have a firm idea of what you want to do, I wouldn't squander your one Masters opportunity on a subject which won't help with that.

    I think your next move should be to contact some of the organisations that you might want to work for. Exlain your current experience and qualifications and ask them what they recommend that you do in order to make you a good candidate for a job with them.
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    (Original post by Klix88)
    A 2:1 is a standard requirement at Masters level, but some will accept a 2:2. It might also be worth looking into starting out on a PGDip, which usually requre a 2:2 or higher. It's the first two taught terms at Masters level. Some will permit you to progress to the final term and a full Masters if you get good resuts for the PGDip.


    From what I've seen of education-based Masters courses, your main problem may be that they are generally seen as professonal development qualifications. They are aimed at those already working in education

    If you have a firm idea of what you want to do, I wouldn't squander your one Masters opportunity on a subject which won't help with that.

    I think your next move should be to contact some of the organisations that you might want to work for. Exlain your current experience and qualifications and ask them what they recommend that you do in order to make you a good candidate for a job with them.
    Can you pin point me information about PGdip, I shall ask organisations and offer to volunteer untill I get meself sorted.

    Thanks
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    (Original post by Jessica 321)
    Can you pin point me information about PGdip, I shall ask organisations and offer to volunteer untill I get meself sorted.

    Thanks
    Don't think there's more I can tell you really. Some unis offer them, some don't. You just need to do a bit of Googling to find out where they are.
 
 
 

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