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    I need to give some context to give you guys a good chance at this.

    So last year, my dad took me to his work to see how it was because I'm looking at a future in IT. Not official work experience or anything. But it's a relatively small but important company in it's field with only one main competitor. And they wanted me to make a dummy app in android for part of their product. I managed to make a functional app then and they were very very happy with it.

    It's been a year and I came back to do more. I go there for 8 hours with my dad 3 days a week. This time it was more serious and they gave me more of a specification to create said app and explained that they wanted to see this as it would be an important selling point to keep their clients as without big clients the small company can very easily disappear. He mentioned that they would use this as either a visual or even code base for the actual app.

    A month later, now, they've decided that they were impressed enough that I would continue with this application and any other mobile application as well as maintaining said applications. They are offering me a job. I would be working from home. To my dad and I, it looks like they are in real need of someone like this.

    I've thought about it a lot - about how it would affect my lifestyle and I've come to the conclusion that I will take the job. My problem here is that I have no idea what amount of money is okay for a skilled job at 16 years old in the UK. The only number that has been mentioned so far is £8 per hour.

    I need to know if that is good - high or too low. I don't want to ask for something too high for someone inexperienced and young like me. But I don't want to go for something too low that undersells my skill at something when I'm 16, if that matters. So I was hoping you guys would be able to help with my problem.

    Thanks, my first post so if something is wrong, that's why, just let me know.
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    (Original post by d0ubled0t)
    I need to give some context to give you guys a good chance at this.

    So last year, my dad took me to his work to see how it was because I'm looking at a future in IT. Not official work experience or anything. But it's a relatively small but important company in it's field with only one main competitor. And they wanted me to make a dummy app in android for part of their product. I managed to make a functional app then and they were very very happy with it.

    It's been a year and I came back to do more. I go there for 8 hours with my dad 3 days a week. This time it was more serious and they gave me more of a specification to create said app and explained that they wanted to see this as it would be an important selling point to keep their clients as without big clients the small company can very easily disappear. He mentioned that they would use this as either a visual or even code base for the actual app.

    A month later, now, they've decided that they were impressed enough that I would continue with this application and any other mobile application as well as maintaining said applications. They are offering me a job. I would be working from home. To my dad and I, it looks like they are in real need of someone like this.

    I've thought about it a lot - about how it would affect my lifestyle and I've come to the conclusion that I will take the job. My problem here is that I have no idea what amount of money is okay for a skilled job at 16 years old in the UK. The only number that has been mentioned so far is £8 per hour.

    I need to know if that is good - high or too low. I don't want to ask for something too high for someone inexperienced and young like me. But I don't want to go for something too low that undersells my skill at something when I'm 16, if that matters. So I was hoping you guys would be able to help with my problem.

    Thanks, my first post so if something is wrong, that's why, just let me know.
    Well, considering you can legally be paid £3.87 per hour, I'd say that's pretty good . . .
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    (Original post by d0ubled0t)
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    The first question is Would it be better for you to be paged a wage (by the hour), a salary (an amount per year, or part of) or piece work (per peice of delivered work)? There are advantages and disadvantages to each for both you and the employer.

    You'd probably need some specialist advice to go with the piecework solution - probably the best option if you are likely to make something groundbreaking, but difficult to set up and a gamble.

    A good starting point would be to look at some full time job adverts for similar roles. Say you find they are paying about £18k per year, then that would be for 5 days a week (inc holidays etc) so if you are working 3 days per week the starting point is 'pro rata' ie 3/5ths of £18k.

    It gets a bit more complicated if the company wants to pay an hourly rate, but you can start with the £18k principle. But there are different considerations - you can Google 'how to calculate an hourly rate for work' and it will talk you through the details.

    You also need to consider if you are likely to earn more than £11k per year. If you are, you will be liable for tax, and it would probably be best to set yourself up as a company. I can't give official advice on this, but it's easy to do, not expensive, and has tax and other financial advantages.

    You could also ask them, or other people you know doing similar work, what their hourly rate is.

    Being 16 isn't really relevant when you have a niche skill they need from you - it's not minimum wage territory where they can just replace you with someone that could do it cheaper.
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    (Original post by d0ubled0t)
    I've thought about it a lot - about how it would affect my lifestyle and I've come to the conclusion that I will take the job. My problem here is that I have no idea what amount of money is okay for a skilled job at 16 years old in the UK. The only number that has been mentioned so far is £8 per hour.
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    Being 16 isn't really relevant when you have a niche skill they need from you - it's not minimum wage territory where they can just replace you with someone that could do it cheaper.
    What threeport said but especially ^this.

    Also, I imagine if you do a good job you will be fine to ask for an increase anyway.

    Maybe start at this hourly rate and see how it goes for a few months. But keep a close track of the hours you spend, and also try to estimate in advance how long you think a project will take. As you become more efficient you might find you estimate a project to take, say, 20 hours but you actually complete it in 10 hours. So you are 50% out of pocket... Now you may be entitled to ask for more money But conversely you may well find a project is harder to do than you initially expected (and this is common, especially with app development!) and take longer - the trick then is to identify why it happened.

    It's always better to "under-promise and over-deliver" - i.e. be somewhat pessimistic about timescales but finish ahead of prediction.

    Be open and honest with the company - and always keep them (and your dad) informed about progress or problems.

    Good luck, it sounds exciting!

    PS. Make sure it doesn't distract you from schoolwork. That's still important too...
 
 
 
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