I object to that...I won a scholarship to a private school.(Original post by Invisible)
Private school of course, where the money talks, rather than student intelligence and motivation.
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- 13-07-2004 20:42
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- 13-07-2004 20:43
(Original post by Valen)
And what is wrong with grammar schools (ignoring the private/public debate at the moment). I went to a grammar school and it dosent change how smart I am, and i dont pay any money to somehow magically make my grade better. Are you saying that my hard work over the last couple of years is worthless?
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- 13-07-2004 20:44
(Original post by calumc)
I don't think they actually said any of that, only that grammar/private schools would affect the statistics as they tend to have more students with high grades through having a selective input and/or better teaching for less naturally-able students (in my opinion a naturally able student will achieve the same whereever you stick them, and would count myself as evidence of this). -
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- 13-07-2004 20:47
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I object to that...I won a scholarship to a private school. -
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- 13-07-2004 20:51
(Original post by pikaboo)
I was just about to say the same thing. My family don't pay for my fees, and couldn't do anyway for that matter. -
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- 13-07-2004 20:51
(Original post by jay9386)
Just wondering what the % of people getting 3 As at A2 was last year and whether it really is special to get 3 As or not? Thx
Jay
Stats off the top of my head - 20,000+ get AAA (this was 2 years ago, and would have inched up now) and 1 in 8 get ABB or better. (NB - Number of A-Level students annually is six figures). -
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- 13-07-2004 20:54
(Original post by Jools)
It used to be a big achievement, but now that so many people get it it's not that big a deal overall... though it can still be in context e.g. you were the only one in your school. -
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- 13-07-2004 20:56
(Original post by Invisible)
I don't want the stat for the % of AAA's, I want the % of AAA's attained by comprehensive school students.
I don't want any gay eton puff included in a stat that includes me because he's reared to get A's by being rich rather than clever, thank you very much.
So don't give us a gay stat.
Normal schools only please.
You are clearly ignorant to the fact that Eton is selective as well as private. -
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- 13-07-2004 20:57
(Original post by Louise_1988)
30 years ago 2As and a B almost guarenteed you a place at Oxbridge -
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(Original post by Louise_1988)
but invisible was just saying how they wern't statistics because they included grammar and public schools... for some reason this suddenly made the worthless-and he was just defending that.
You can't just group things together like this and get a valid result. For example, breast cancer is among the most common cancer in women, but virtually unheard of (but still possible) in men - so any statistics combining the two would be flawed, and suggest the likelyhood of a man developing the disease was higher than it actually is, and vice versa. In this case there is an "unnaturally" high number of high-achieving students in the private sector and so for an accurate representation this should be dealt with seperately to state students in my opinion. -
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- 13-07-2004 20:59
(Original post by Squishy)
Hell no...maybe not 30, but around 40 years ago, you still needed a good knowledge of Latin to get into Oxbridge. Most students at public schools would also stay on an extra year to get preparation for the special entrance tests. A-levels alone wouldn't cut it.
A levels were much more respected then 3As was pretty amazing
They also had the good old S levels which were highly valued. -
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- 13-07-2004 21:00
(Original post by calumc)
But surely it would be flawed to include the private/state statistics together, as it's not comparing like with like. -
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- 13-07-2004 21:01
(Original post by Louise_1988)
no... that's not totally true, yes you did normally stay a second year, my father had 2As and a B but turned down his cambridge place in favour of not spending another year at school.
A levels were much more respected then 3As was pretty amazing -
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- 13-07-2004 21:04
(Original post by Squishy)
True, but all statistics are fundamentally biased. The only really fair way to compare your performance is to compare against the people who are in your school, getting the same teaching as you. -
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- 13-07-2004 22:03
Can someone explain to me, why people get so touchy about something so petty?
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- 13-07-2004 23:28
(Original post by Invisible)
2.) It includes private schools and grammars.
Perhaps you have replied in the wrong thread? -
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- 14-07-2004 09:37
The required standard has slipped so much that getting 3As is no real achievement anymore. There's no value in the grades.
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- 14-07-2004 09:45
(Original post by MTJ)
The required standard has slipped so much that getting 3As is no real achievement anymore. There's no value in the grades. -
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- 14-07-2004 10:48
(Original post by Pencil Queen)
Funny that so many people fail to get those grades then.... -
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- 14-07-2004 10:52
(Original post by MTJ)
The required standard has slipped so much that getting 3As is no real achievement anymore. There's no value in the grades.
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