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Reply 2

Hey!

I think that you'll be fine. I'm going to the University of Leeds from the United States and my degree is just as valid in the US as it is in the UK. I know that there are others who are coming from America, Canada, and every other place in the world. I would check though with your Admissions Tutor. A friend of mine was not able to study Midwifery in the UK because requirements for that field are very specific. I really think that you'll have no problem though with people recognizing your degree no matter where you are.

Good luck at uni!

~Jen

Reply 3

talwar_desi
well i am an indian goin to aston uni for Msc accounting n finance and i have paid 13000 pounds for that.my parents have applied for canadian immigration and i am expecting it any time 2008.so will my msc be well regarded in canada/usa or i will have to start all over again in canada.


Your degree will be recognized but are you planning to become a certified accountant afterwards? Canada, USA and UK have different accreditation. Canada has CICA, USA has CPA and UK has ACCA.

Reply 4

OP: do you mean are they valid, or are they recognized?
They are definitely valid, but only a few UK universities (e.g. Oxford, Cambridge, and LSE) are readily recognized (i.e. known) by employers.

I have a lot of Canadian friends and apparently LSE has a massive rep there because a former PM (Trudeau) went there.

Reply 5

More UK unis are both widely recognised and well regarded by US employers than the three you mention.

Reply 6

Are you sure about that...my dad has a degree from Imperial and told me no one in his industry (finance) has heard of it. I went back and forth between choosing LSE and UCL, I found that hardly anyone had heard of UCL.

Reply 7

I'm sure.

Reply 8

OK...you're right, I made it up. I enjoy telling lies about whether or not people recognize universities.

My brother goes to Wash U, and the majority of people he tells on the East Coast have no idea what it is. Is it hard to imagine that those same people aren't particularly aware of UCL?

Reply 9

shady lane
My brother goes to Wash U, and the majority of people he tells on the East Coast have no idea what it is. Is it hard to imagine that those same people aren't particularly aware of UCL?


Most people in the UK are not particularly aware of UCL.
It is not exactly a high profile university.

Reply 10

shady lane
OK...you're right, I made it up. I enjoy telling lies about whether or not people recognize universities.

My brother goes to Wash U, and the majority of people he tells on the East Coast have no idea what it is. Is it hard to imagine that those same people aren't particularly aware of UCL?


The implication was that you were wrong, not that you were lying.

Why does it matter that most of the people he tells haven't heard of it? The general public are not important, it's whether employers have heard of it or not.

Reply 11

the uk seems to be recognised as a good place to study, and everyone knows oxford and cambridge given how oxbridge is a popculture label (like harvard, mit, princeton, yale etc). outside of oxbridge, uk universities are less known. why would anybody know of them? it's difficult to name 5 french, german, australian, chinese, canadian etc universities for people who do not live in those countries. the uk is no exception. there will be small, selective circles (perhaps business) where certain b.schools are recognised globally, but generally speaking, our universities don't have the fame outside of the uk that we hope. if anybody has ever been to an international academic conference you will know what i'm saying when you are given the abstract books/timetables.

Reply 12

acolyte
Most people in the UK are not particularly aware of UCL.
It is not exactly a high profile university.


i can't tell if you are being sarcastic, but if you are not, i agree with you 100%.

Reply 13

Americans dont seem to be much aware of things outside their country. Universities included.

Reply 14

lol, i'm not going down that path, but i agree with you and shady that ucl, bristol, warwick, durham etc won't be known outside of the uk like oxford and cambridge are. st andrews might be known because of the royals - again, it all goes back to pop culture and how much media exposure certain universities get.

Reply 15

Yes, exactly. UCL is a great university, but most employers absolutely will not know it in the US. Possibly, finance and engineering companies would know, as there are a good number of immigrants from South Asia who study at UK universities first and then come to the States. And graduate admissions teams will know it. In the same way, someone who went to Wash U going to the UK will not expect much recognition, despite the fact that it's an excellent university. That's just how things go.

I just find a lot of Americans on TSR who go to the UK for undergrad get touchy or offended if they are told that most universities outside of Oxbridge aren't well recognized by employers in the States. Well, stay in the UK then. I have seen the struggle of my friends to get jobs after getting Stanford degrees--from work in law firms to teaching to technology and loads of things in between. The job market is rough, and don't be complacent about anything. You will have to work harder than students who went to name-brand American universities if you want a job here when you come back. Why? Because employers are lazy and like to take something they are familiar with and can trust over an x-factor like a foreign university.

Reply 16

^^^ well said, shady.

to extend that point, a lot of opposition to your views (and mine) come from brits who think that their "prestigious" warwick or nottingham degrees will somehow open all sorts of doors all over the world, "because it's warwick/nottingham". but why???

europe has soooo many universities like durham, but i bet most brits on tsr couldnt name them and wouldnt recognise that they have had an amazing impact on european ideological and education for centuries. in the same way, durham isnt a brand name in europe (and beyond) either.

Reply 17

shady lane
Are you sure about that...my dad has a degree from Imperial and told me no one in his industry (finance) has heard of it. I went back and forth between choosing LSE and UCL, I found that hardly anyone had heard of UCL.

Universities become well known mostly by having alumni working in more glamorous positions like politics. Most of Imperial grads are scientist/engineers however and they would normally work in the engineering industry rather than running for office for example.

Likewise, very very few people around the world have heard of Caltech, despite it being probably the hardest and most rigourous place to study pure sciences in this world, and is throughly successful in making fundamental breakthroughs and produce Nobel Prize Winners.

Reply 18

The Boosh
lol, i'm not going down that path, but i agree with you and shady that ucl, bristol, warwick, durham etc won't be known outside of the uk like oxford and cambridge are. st andrews might be known because of the royals - again, it all goes back to pop culture and how much media exposure certain universities get.

I believe that Warwick is slightly more well known than UCL Bristol or Durham for whatever reasons, and Sheffield is quite well known too. But whether it is the university that's well know or the place itself is debatable.

Reply 19

I think it's important to appreciate your school. I know that Leeds isn't a top 10 uni and that nobody has heard of it in the states, but I am so happy with my program! I don't care if people haven't heard of it, I'm getting excellent training for my career! I believe that enthusiasm has an impact on people, to some extent at least, and I plan on showing my future employers that they don't have to go with "name-brand" uni graduates to be satisfied with their employees.

I agree with you about most Americans not really knowing anything about anywhere outside the US. I see it in most of my peers and people that I know. I try to be different, and I know that there are others like me. But everytime I talk to somebody from outside North America and the get this shocked look on their face when I've heard of the city that they're from...it's just sad. I hate having that reputation attached to me because of my citizenship. I guess that we American International students will just have to show people that not all Americans are obsessed with the US.