The Student Room Group
What do you mean? If you mean robes and mortar boards, then just at graduation. Day-to-day everybody wears what they want.
Reply 2
abennett958
Is it ever really worn in Edinburgh?


no, this is only Oxbridge and Durham...
St Andrew's has a secret society where they have some sort of dress, but otherwise no.
arod
no, this is only Oxbridge and Durham...
St Andrew's has a secret society where they have some sort of dress, but otherwise no.


Sorry, but this isn't correct. You'll see students at St Andrews wearing their bright red academic gowns often (formal meals, debates, church, etc.). Not eveyone chooses to wear one, though some seem to wear them daily, but in general it is quite common.
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IR Postgraduate
Sorry, but this isn't correct. You'll see students at St Andrews wearing their bright red academic gowns often (formal meals, debates, church, etc.). Not eveyone chooses to wear one, though some seem to wear them daily, but in general it is quite common.


Those crazy mother****ers. :toofunny:
Reply 5
The red undergraduate gowns can be worn at any of the 'ancient' unis: Edinburgh, St Andrews, Glasgow, Aberdeen and Dundee - sometimes with slight differences, for example where St Andrews has a maroon bit at the neck, Dundee has a blue one.

St Andrews is the only place they are seen commonly; although they do still make an appearance at some things in the other four: usually debates, chapel, choirs and so forth.Edinburgh, being very much a city uni, seems to have shunned them. Out of the five that are entitled to use them, it seems Edinburgh is the least likely place to see them. They were fairly common in Aberdeen and Dundee up to the 70s and 80s. Glasgow, I don't know about, but I've heard a couple of die-hards still use them.

If you really want one, then good on you! But you'll be part of a very tiny minority. I imagine the Students' Association might keep some on hand to loan out for events like those mentioned above and maybe a few people will have inherited one, but yes - not at all widespread. If you want to buy one, then the official robemaker is Ede and Ravenscroft and it'll probably cost you just over a hundred pounds. I suppose a couple of folk must go out of their way to buy them.
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Edit: And of course, there's gowns for graduates, just like at any other uni. But I presumed by your question you were meaning for undergrad students. Oh, the Students' Association Executive members will probably wear their ultra-fancy gowns for certain things too.
Reply 6
pdeedy1
Those crazy ****************s. :toofunny:


I suppose you're one of those vile modernists? Urgh. :p:
Reply 7
Libertin du Nord
I suppose you're one of those vile modernists? Urgh. :p:


I have no problem with tradition, but academic robes, please. Maybe it just sounds so ridiculous to me because I'm an American :cool:
Reply 8
pdeedy1
I have no problem with tradition, but academic robes, please. Maybe it just sounds so ridiculous to me because I'm an American :cool:


Oh I don't know, I am good friends with an American chap who has graduated from St Andrews; he was very much a gownee and flounced about in it regularly.

I like them. They blow about in the wind, allow you do 'swoosh' into situations in a rather superhero-like fashion and are generally just incredible. It's possibly a bit immature, but it can also be quite fitting and formalised some serious events well.
Reply 9
Libertin du Nord
Oh I don't know, I am good friends with an American chap who has graduated from St Andrews; he was very much a gownee and flounced about in it regularly.

I like them. They blow about in the wind, allow you do 'swoosh' into situations in a rather superhero-like fashion and are generally just incredible. It's possibly a bit immature, but it can also be quite fitting and formalised some serious events well.


If I want to swoosh, I'll just wear my kilt, thank you. Quite a discouraging location you've got there in North Britain.
Reply 10
pdeedy1
Quite a discouraging location you've got there in North Britain.


Oh I don't know, I find it very encouraging.
Reply 11
Libertin du Nord
Oh I don't know, I find it very encouraging.


Maybe we're on diffeent pages here, by North Britain, you mean...
Reply 12
pdeedy1
Maybe we're on diffeent pages here, by North Britain, you mean...


Britain... the north bit thereof. To be more precise: Perthshire, Scotland.
Reply 13
Libertin du Nord
Britain... the north bit thereof. To be more precise: Perthshire, Scotland.


To each his own.
What's wrong with calling it North Britain? Geographically and politically speaking it is correct and there is absolutely nothing wrong with somebody having multiple layers of nationalism. I, for example, am an islander, a Gael, a Scot, a Briton, a European and a citizen of the Earth. How people choose to identify themselves is their own business.
Reply 15
michaelnicholson88
What's wrong with calling it North Britain? Geographically and politically speaking it is correct and there is absolutely nothing wrong with somebody having multiple layers of nationalism. I, for example, am an islander, a Gael, a Scot, a Briton, a European and a citizen of the Earth. How people choose to identify themselves is their own business.


Oh there's no problem, and, quite frankly, I'm glad for such things. Hence my reply, to each his own. You, sir, are indeed 100% correct. I was just a tad unfamiliar with the term "North Britain." Btw, I am also an islander !
Reply 16
Fair dos. It's more a fascination with historic placenames. When I'm at home, it's usually some variation on Strathclyde, the old north or similar. Up here, I quite favour the term 'Albany' to describe my location, but it gets a little boring to leave it the same for too long.

North Britain as a term was conceived immediately after the union - although it's also used historically for ancient Britain. I think originally the thought was to turn the UK into a new nation and that Scotland and England as concepts would eventually die out. Hence Robert Burns with his "Fareweel even to the Scotish name; Sae fam'd in martial story" line. At the end of the day, however, this didn't happen - it'd have been odd if it had, although I suppose really we wouldn't have known any different. The 'North Britain' or 'North British' term, at least as a proper noun, is almost extinct. It did give its name to army regiments, newspapers, hotels, railways and the like back in the day though.
Reply 17
Libertin du Nord
Fair dos. It's more a fascination with historic placenames. When I'm at home, it's usually some variation on Strathclyde, the old north or similar. Up here, I quite favour the term 'Albany' to describe my location, but it gets a little boring to leave it the same for too long.

North Britain as a term was conceived immediately after the union - although it's also used historically for ancient Britain. I think originally the thought was to turn the UK into a new nation and that Scotland and England as concepts would eventually die out. Hence Robert Burns with his "Fareweel even to the Scotish name; Sae fam'd in martial story" line. At the end of the day, however, this didn't happen - it'd have been odd if it had, although I suppose really we wouldn't have known any different. The 'North Britain' or 'North British' term, at least as a proper noun, is almost extinct. It did give its name to army regiments, newspapers, hotels, railways and the like back in the day though.



Thanks for the lesson :smile:
Reply 18
Libertin du Nord
The red undergraduate gowns can be worn at any of the 'ancient' unis: Edinburgh, St Andrews, Glasgow, Aberdeen and Dundee - sometimes with slight differences, for example where St Andrews has a maroon bit at the neck, Dundee has a blue one.

If you really want one, then good on you! But you'll be part of a very tiny minority. I imagine the Students' Association might keep some on hand to loan out for events like those mentioned above and maybe a few people will have inherited one, but yes - not at all widespread. If you want to buy one, then the official robemaker is Ede and Ravenscroft and it'll probably cost you just over a hundred pounds. I suppose a couple of folk must go out of their way to buy them.
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Is this correct that they can be worn at any of the ancient uni's. It's a complicated thing but i've been a member of this society that requires academic dress and up to now havn't been able to go to any meetings because of this. So could I get one of these red gowns then (at Edinburgh)?

Please if someone could reply quickly because i'm actually off to the festival tommorow!

Thanks
Reply 19
abennett958
Is this correct that they can be worn at any of the ancient uni's. It's a complicated thing but i've been a member of this society that requires academic dress and up to now havn't been able to go to any meetings because of this. So could I get one of these red gowns then (at Edinburgh)?

Please if someone could reply quickly because i'm actually off to the festival tommorow!

Thanks


Although they are perhaps rarest in Edinburgh out of the five universities that are entitled to them, yes an Edinburgh student is entitled to wear the red undergraduate gown. There are subtle differences between the designs (Aberdeen's is shorter, Dundee has a blue collar, St Andrews has the maroon collar etc) - I can't say I've ever seen an Edinburgh one 'in the flesh' but they do exist.

I doubt you'll be able to find one on short notice - the Students' Association might lend you one if you're lucky. Otherwise, the official robemaker is Ede and Ravenscroft who will put one together for you and will have all the relevant information to hand.

Edit: According to George Shaw (pretty much the all-knowing documenter of Academic Dress) writing in 1966 - the Edinburgh undergrad gown is the same style as the University of London's, except obviously in red. If you want any information, this discussion board tends to talk about all things on the subject, and is often the only actual source on a lot of this sort of thing online.

Edit Mk II: here! Recent photographs of students in Edinburgh undergraduate gowns! It's like discovering a rabble of Dodo that have been hiding from human eyes for centuries!