Hey there! Sign in to join this conversationNew here? Join for free
    • Thread Starter
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    Hey, I'm working on a non-math project and I've come across a maths problem I can't solve. I'm not a maths student so this isn't my expertise.

    Population A has 34m. Population B has 251m.
    A provided 60% of the soldiers in the war whilst B only provided 40%.

    Population corrected - what is the per capita contributions for each country? In terms of percentage since, unfortunately, I do not have a numerical number.

    Thanks a bunch!
    • Community Assistant
    • Welcome Squad
    Offline

    20
    ReputationRep:
    Community Assistant
    Welcome Squad
    (Original post by OxyMoron95)
    Hey, I'm working on a non-math project and I've come across a maths problem I can't solve. I'm not a maths student so this isn't my expertise.

    Population A has 34m. Population B has 251m.
    A provided 60% of the soldiers in the war whilst B only provided 40%.

    Population corrected - what is the per capita contributions for each country? In terms of percentage since, unfortunately, I do not have a numerical number.

    Thanks a bunch!
    Can you clarify; are you asking for the amount of contribution from each person within a county? I don't think that's a thing because only 60% of A's population and 40% of B's population contributed so it leaves the rest who do not contribute by not getting provided as soldiers. You can't distribute contribution onto those who didn't get sent.
    • Thread Starter
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by RDKGames)
    Can you clarify; are you asking for the amount of contribution from each person within a county? I don't think that's a thing because only 60% of A's population and 40% of B's population contributed so it leaves the rest who do not contribute by not getting provided as soldiers. You can't distribute contribution onto hose who didn't get sent.
    Let me explain my goal.

    I'll spare the details but there was a war that occurred. Two countries provided roughly the same amount of troops (60% vs 40%). However, I am trying to show that country A did in fact do a far greater contribution given they have a vastly smaller population. Whatever statistic / equation of me showing this would be appreciated.

    I assumed I'd use per capita... Yes I know many didn't serve in the war but it would demonstrate the average based on how much they contributed vs the countries population.

    In summary: I'm asking how do I show a population corrected contribution of each country?

    Perhaps a X amount of soldiers per 100,000 would be better... But again the only info I have is how the percentages were split between the two countries... I don't have any numerical data to go off since the war is so old.


    Cheers for the help
    Offline

    3
    ReputationRep:
    You need the actual total number of soldiers. For example; there could have been 10 total; so compared to their populations they both sent close to 0% of their people. It could have been 1 million so that would habe been a much larger proportion of their populations

    Posted from TSR Mobile
    • Community Assistant
    • Welcome Squad
    Offline

    20
    ReputationRep:
    Community Assistant
    Welcome Squad
    (Original post by OxyMoron95)
    Two countries provided roughly the same amount of troops (60% vs 40%).
    They didn't. A sent 13,600,000 soldiers while B sent 100,400,000 so they are not even roughly the same.

    (Original post by OxyMoron95)
    However, I am trying to show that country A did in fact do a far greater contribution given they have a vastly smaller population.
    This depends on what you consider as a contribution; if a contribution is the amount of troops that were sent then obviously B contributes more. Since A sends more than 50% of their population, then A has a higher risk than B which would be good enough to say that this is more important to A than B.

    If you wanted some sort of statistic for each country sending people then I suppose you can take this:
    A - for every 1 person that doesn't go, 1.5 people go. Hence giving a ratio of 2:3 for those who dont to people who do.
    B - for every 1 person that doesn't go, 0.666... people go. Hence giving a ratio of 3:2 of people who dont to people who do.
    Clearly you can see that A holds a greater stake in this, but B contributed more due to the amount of troops.

    Edit: This is also assuming that everyone within the population is a "soldier" so to speak, unless those populations are country's armies rather than populations of countries.
    Offline

    3
    ReputationRep:
    You could point out that if they were considered as a single area, A is 12% of the population whereas B is 88% (34+251=285, 34/285=0.12)

    Posted from TSR Mobile
    • Thread Starter
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by RDKGames)
    They didn't. A sent 13,600,000 soldiers while B sent 100,400,000 so they are not even roughly the same.



    This depends on what you consider as a contribution; if a contribution is the amount of troops that were sent that obviously B contributes more. Since A sends more than 50% of their population, then A has a higher risk than B which would be good enough to say that this is more important to A than B.

    If you wanted some sort of statistic for each country sending people then I suppose you can take this:
    A - for every 1 person that doesn't go, 1.5 people go. Hence giving a ratio of 2:3 for those who dont to people who do.
    B - for every 1 person that doesn't go, 0.666... people go. Hence giving a ratio of 3:2 of people who dont to people who do.
    Clearly you can see that A holds a greater stake in this, but B contributed more due to the amount of troops.
    You misunderstand. FYI I was sparing details I am aware there is a 20% difference. I didn't mean they sent 60% & 40% of their respective populations. I mean out of what was sent... 60% belonged to country A and 40% belonged to country B.

    Country A did indeed send more despite their population.

    Those points you wrote on A & B... Are they still accurate given what I said above?

    Thanks for the help btw. I understand it's not easy without numbers.

    Btw could I not divide both populations until they reach 1m... then divide the original % by the same.

    So it'd look like this:
    Country A provided 1.76% of the total (combined) contribution, per million population.
    Country B provided 0.14% of the total (combined) contribution, per million population.
    • Thread Starter
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by TheBride)
    You could point out that if they were considered as a single area, A is 12% of the population whereas B is 88% (34+251=285, 34/285=0.12)

    Posted from TSR Mobile
    So you'd say country A, with only 12% of the population, provided 60% of the contributions.

    I take it that's as far as you go... There's no way of combining the 12% with the 60% (in some equation) to come out with a contribution per population answer?

    Thanks tho
    • Community Assistant
    • Welcome Squad
    Offline

    20
    ReputationRep:
    Community Assistant
    Welcome Squad
    (Original post by OxyMoron95)
    You misunderstand. FYI I was sparing details I am aware there is a 20% difference. I didn't mean they sent 60% & 40% of their respective populations. I mean out of what was sent... 60% belonged to country A and 40% belonged to country B.

    Country A did indeed send more despite their population.

    Those points you wrote on A & B... Are they still accurate given what I said above?

    Thanks for the help btw. I understand it's not easy without numbers.

    Btw could I not divide both populations until they reach 1m... then divide the original % by the same.

    So it'd look like this:
    Country A provided 1.76% of the total (combined) contribution, per million population.
    Country B provided 0.14% of the total (combined) contribution, per million population.
    Ah I see, that spices things up a little and as TheBride pointed out, you'd need the total amount of soldiers for each country otherwise you are forced to give answers using algebra. I'll have a think and get back to you with anything meaningful I might come up with. And no my A and B points are not valid as they count on the entire population of the country.
    • Thread Starter
    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by RDKGames)
    Ah I see, that spices things up a little and as TheBride pointed out, you'd need the total amount of soldiers for each country otherwise you are forced to give answers using algebra. I'll have a think and get back to you with anything meaningful I might come up with. And no my A and B points are not valid as they count on the entire population of the country.
    I see that's fine. Well right now all I have is x amount of population provided x amount of soldiers.

    If you can think of anything, be it points (like above), ratios or anything I'd appreciate it.

    Could I turn it into a ratio using each percentage, so 12% provided 60% = 12:60 = 6:30 = 3:15 = 1:5 ?

    Cheers.
    Offline

    3
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by OxyMoron95)
    I see that's fine. Well right now all I have is x amount of population provided x amount of soldiers.

    If you can think of anything, be it points (like above), ratios or anything I'd appreciate it.

    Could I turn it into a ratio using each percentage, so 12% provided 60% = 12:60 = 6:30 = 3:15 = 1:5 ?

    Cheers.
    No, that's not valid either.
 
 
 
  • See more of what you like on The Student Room

    You can personalise what you see on TSR. Tell us a little about yourself to get started.

  • Poll
    Would you like to hibernate through the winter months?
    Useful resources

    Make your revision easier

    Maths

    Maths Forum posting guidelines

    Not sure where to post? Read the updated guidelines here

    Equations

    How to use LaTex

    Writing equations the easy way

    Student revising

    Study habits of A* students

    Top tips from students who have already aced their exams

    Study Planner

    Create your own Study Planner

    Never miss a deadline again

    Polling station sign

    Thinking about a maths degree?

    Chat with other maths applicants

    Can you help? Study help unanswered threads

    Groups associated with this forum:

    View associated groups
  • See more of what you like on The Student Room

    You can personalise what you see on TSR. Tell us a little about yourself to get started.

  • The Student Room, Get Revising and Marked by Teachers are trading names of The Student Room Group Ltd.

    Register Number: 04666380 (England and Wales), VAT No. 806 8067 22 Registered Office: International House, Queens Road, Brighton, BN1 3XE

    Quick reply
    Reputation gems: You get these gems as you gain rep from other members for making good contributions and giving helpful advice.