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    Unless you have been blind to the news, you will know that the Black Lives Matter movement in the United States has gathered a lot of momentum in the last few years as a result of the unarmed killings of black men at the hands of law enforcement officers. I think the overwhelming majority of people are disgusted by police officers who believe it's appropriate to use excessive force in relatively nonabrasive situations, but conversely many also recognise that police violence is not exclusive with one group and that black crime statistics are relative to their involvement with the justice system. The biggest challenges therefore facing the black community has very little to do with rogue police officials.

    However, the Black Lives Matter movement has now found ashore here in the United Kingdom - employing the same ruinous tactics as some of their US counterparts by blocking roads and inflicting havoc on innocent commuters trying to get about their day. The aim of Black Lives Matter UK is to rid Britain of its racism, which they say is systematic given the disproportionate targeting of black men by law officials in the city of London. Having read the data provided by Scotland Yard published in 2014 - while a black person is significantly more likely to be stopped and searched by police - black people commit a disproportionate amount of crime in every crime category with respect to their
    population and blacks were responsible for over 30% of all cautions for robbery even though they account for 3% of the country's population. Even more worrying, in the city of London the latest available data from 2010 shows that black people are responsible for over 65% of gun crime and over 50% of armed robberies.

    Given this knowledge, there are still some people who believe there is a need for a Black Lives Matter movement in the United Kingdom because they say that there's a faceless monster known as institutional racism hampering the prosperity of the black community in Britain wholly because of the colour of their skin. However, if institutional racism did exist - be it here or in the United States - then explain why the Asian minority seem to successfully get into the middle class and not have a disproportionate involvement with the justice system. In the United States, Asian Americans are overrepresented in most top-tier academic institutions yet the underrepresentation of black Americans is still professed to be the result of institutional racism. Given that black Americans achieve the lowest GPA of all US race groups, their representation as a race in academic institutions is relative to their average academic attainment, likewise with Hispanics.

    To me, there is a very clear inhibition preventing the success of young black people in the west and that is the atrocious single motherhood rates in the black community. In the UK, a black child is more likely to grow up in a non-nuclear family than any other race group by more than 25%. In the US, black households are again more likely to have one parent with the gap between white households and black households amounting to more than 30 percentage points.

    Research from the University of Pennsylvania shows that in the United States a child who grows up without a father is five times more likely not to finish high school; and high school dropouts are twelve times more likely to be in prison by the age of 30 than their counterparts who graduated. To get into the middle class in the US, the research shows that you have to do three things: graduate high school, don't have kids before marriage and stay in work. The absence of many of the aforementioned are too pertinent in the black community. This nicely explains why although Hispanic households in the US yield less income on average than black households - young Hispanic children are less likely to commit crime, more likely to go to university and more likely to have a higher GPA.

    If the black community are serious about improving their worth, then perhaps they should stop appeasing the political bandwagon and begin focusing on overt issues facing the black community instead of unbeknownst falsities which account for a decimal percentage. The west is the most tolerant place in the world for black people wanting to reside and live a happy and peaceful life, yet the wanting to denounce the west for systemic racism has become commonplace over recent weeks. The west still has a way to go in ridding itself of all of its ills, but divisive race campaigns will do nothing but deteriorate race relations. It'd be nice to have an open discussion on such a matter, but I suspect too many people choose to ignore fact because it doesn't confer with their narrative.
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    That is a long post wow
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    Agreed. Modern identity politics have lost sight of the genuine causes of inequality, and instead prefer to invent intangible demons like systemic racism.
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    (Original post by Trapz99)
    That is a long post wow
    Decent sentence construction and punctuation though.

    And pretty much sums up the cause of many of the problems in the Black community. People in glass houses etc etc.
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    Can't rep you right now, but will later. Great post.

    The crime and police shooting statistics need to be given more public exposure. I'm rather tired of people complaining about the disproportionate rates of black men being killed by police while being completely ignorant of the even more disproportionate crime rate (observable in both FBI data and Justice Department survey data). This and important geographic factors, which people also tend to forget. More black people live in cities, there's more crime in cities, thus higher per capita police interaction with black people. It's not rocket science. Additionally, if one demographic is committing more crime on average, they'll get longer prison sentences on average due to more probable past convictions, the three strike rule, etc. I'm sure much of this applies in the UK, too.

    I'm also very displeased with the media and how they handle cases where black people get shot or killed. Anything to stir up racial controversy for clicks. And where are the headlines about unarmed white people being killed? It actually happens more often, but we never hear about it. This all affects public perceptions.
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    Is there any American fad that bored, unemployed morons across the pond won't scramble to jump on?
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/articl...tions-answered

    I had little sympathy with the movement in the UK to begin with, this interview has rid me of any I had left.
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    Very interesting and factual post. I totally agree with you that BLM aren't looking at deeper issues within black communities.
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    Are any of you black or from ethnic minorities for the matter though?
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    (Original post by jake4198)
    Unless you have been blind to the news, you will know that the Black Lives Matter movement in the United States has gathered a lot of momentum in the last few years as a result of the unarmed killings of black men at the hands of law enforcement officers. I think the overwhelming majority of people are disgusted by police officers who believe it's appropriate to use excessive force in relatively nonabrasive situations, but conversely many also recognise that police violence is not exclusive with one group and that black crime statistics are relative to their involvement with the justice system. The biggest challenges therefore facing the black community has very little to do with rogue police officials.

    However, the Black Lives Matter movement has now found ashore here in the United Kingdom - employing the same ruinous tactics as some of their US counterparts by blocking roads and inflicting havoc on innocent commuters trying to get about their day. The aim of Black Lives Matter UK is to rid Britain of its racism, which they say is systematic given the disproportionate targeting of black men by law officials in the city of London. Having read the data provided by Scotland Yard published in 2014 - while a black person is significantly more likely to be stopped and searched by police - black people commit a disproportionate amount of crime in every crime category with respect to their
    population and blacks were responsible for over 30% of all cautions for robbery even though they account for 3% of the country's population. Even more worrying, in the city of London the latest available data from 2010 shows that black people are responsible for over 65% of gun crime and over 50% of armed robberies.

    Given this knowledge, there are still some people who believe there is a need for a Black Lives Matter movement in the United Kingdom because they say that there's a faceless monster known as institutional racism hampering the prosperity of the black community in Britain wholly because of the colour of their skin. However, if institutional racism did exist - be it here or in the United States - then explain why the Asian minority seem to successfully get into the middle class and not have a disproportionate involvement with the justice system. In the United States, Asian Americans are overrepresented in most top-tier academic institutions yet the underrepresentation of black Americans is still professed to be the result of institutional racism. Given that black Americans achieve the lowest GPA of all US race groups, their representation as a race in academic institutions is relative to their average academic attainment, likewise with Hispanics.

    To me, there is a very clear inhibition preventing the success of young black people in the west and that is the atrocious single motherhood rates in the black community. In the UK, a black child is more likely to grow up in a non-nuclear family than any other race group by more than 25%. In the US, black households are again more likely to have one parent with the gap between white households and black households amounting to more than 30 percentage points.

    Research from the University of Pennsylvania shows that in the United States a child who grows up without a father is five times more likely not to finish high school; and high school dropouts are twelve times more likely to be in prison by the age of 30 than their counterparts who graduated. To get into the middle class in the US, the research shows that you have to do three things: graduate high school, don't have kids before marriage and stay in work. The absence of many of the aforementioned are too pertinent in the black community. This nicely explains why although Hispanic households in the US yield less income on average than black households - young Hispanic children are less likely to commit crime, more likely to go to university and more likely to have a higher GPA.

    If the black community are serious about improving their worth, then perhaps they should stop appeasing the political bandwagon and begin focusing on overt issues facing the black community instead of unbeknownst falsities which account for a decimal percentage. The west is the most tolerant place in the world for black people wanting to reside and live a happy and peaceful life, yet the wanting to denounce the west for systemic racism has become commonplace over recent weeks. The west still has a way to go in ridding itself of all of its ills, but divisive race campaigns will do nothing but deteriorate race relations. It'd be nice to have an open discussion on such a matter, but I suspect too many people choose to ignore fact because it doesn't confer with their narrative.
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    (Original post by Trapz99)
    That is a long post wow
    Used paragraphs and a greater sense of logic than many threads in this forum and backed up by a few statistics.

    I would be cautious about assuming single parenthood as the sole reason for black overrepresentation in police statistics. But it is an interesting point regardless.
 
 
 
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