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    Labour is a dead force in Scottish politics already and, despite what its leaders are trying to remind us, I think the rest of the UK, too. For years the leadership of the party (would almost be tempted to say the 'metropolitan elite' if I was keener to resort to cliche) have been at odds with what their own voters think — in complete denial. With such a disparity between the leaders and those whom they claim to represent, it's no wonder that the party's support is on its knees and it is. The only reason they still have the North is because there's none other party they'd dare vote for; at least in part 'blind voting'. There is such a party in Scotland, the SNP, and hence Labour's brutal demise there. Does the Scottish example show that Labour's demise is imminent with the introduction of smaller, representative parties?
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    Yes they are. They're not in unity, none of them agree with each other, and their leader is a farce. They're not cohesive and in unison like the conservatives, in fact in contrast to the conservatives they're like a group of angry teenagers arguing among themselves for the most power And ridiculous ideas.
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    It's full of people debating the ideological elements which old school blue collar people don't give a **** about. They want a party that represents their interests not pandering to immigration and other things. Generally blue collar people work damn hard and don't want to be patronised by a citizens income or other **** like that. They see property being bought up by rich types from abroad and London etc.
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    (Original post by Pinkberry_y)
    Yes they are. They're not in unity, none of them agree with each other, and their leader is a farce. They're not cohesive and in unison like the conservatives, in fact in contrast to the conservatives they're like a group of angry teenagers arguing among themselves for the most power And ridiculous ideas.
    Could not have said it better myself
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    I sincerely hope labour split and we keep a strong conservative government
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    My daughters' Lego bricks have more life than the Labour Party. Until they get rid of Corbyn it will remain as such.
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    (Original post by dkj50496)
    Labour is a dead force in Scottish politics already and, despite what its leaders are trying to remind us, I think the rest of the UK, too. For years the leadership of the party (would almost be tempted to say the 'metropolitan elite' if I was keener to resort to cliche) have been at odds with what their own voters think — in complete denial. With such a disparity between the leaders and those whom they claim to represent, it's no wonder that the party's support is on its knees and it is. The only reason they still have the North is because there's none other party they'd dare vote for; at least in part 'blind voting'. There is such a party in Scotland, the SNP, and hence Labour's brutal demise there. Does the Scottish example show that Labour's demise is imminent with the introduction of smaller, representative parties?
    I think so. But i will still vote for them.
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    Sadly, yes, but I see a resurrection coming.

    Labour lost a lot of traditional voters to UKIP in 2015, which are vital individuals that Labour need to target again. Corbyn needs to ameliorate the problem of immigration, which I assume he will have to do. The socialist movement in Labour will put them back in the system as contenders.

    Keep up the work Jeremy!
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    they're in their second wilderness period for sure
 
 
 
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