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    NOTICE: This is a thread designed purely to raise awareness about the project. We are not a member of the current model House of Commons.

    Dear TSR members, readers and interested people, After being involved in many political discussions on TSR I came across the so-called model House of Commons (mHoC). After digging through several discussions and threads I have realised that there is no active Libertarian party on TSR, momentarily. My goal is to brign libertarian principles back to TSR. The thing is: WE NEED YOU!

    What is a Libertarian?
    Libertarianism is a political philosophy that strongly advocates meritocracy, the idea that every human’s social status should be dictated by the skills and abilities that he/she has. If a person is an exceptional artist, then he should be rewarded more than a mediocre artist. Furthermore Libertarianism rests on the idea that every human can and should govern himself as long as he does not harm others. That includes: the right to abortion, maximum free-speech rights, the right to own guns for self-defence and sporting purposes, minimal government and an extraordinarily free market. The only purpose of the government, in the Libertarian philosophy, is to serve and protect countries peoples --- not the other way around. Above all however throwns the idea of unparalleled equality among the people.

    Do you identify as a Libertarian?
    Then please feel free to make your voice heard by writing a message in this thread or contacting me via PM, so we can further the project. We cannot do it without support. In addition you can contact any friends on TSR who you think might be interested in joining this little political effort. Let us hope this project succeeds!

    You do not have to agree with all of these points to be a libertarian; there are many different orientations within the movement.

    Thank you for reading.
    Sincerely, Galaxie501

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    So you want to bring back the liber party?
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    Given the absolute failure of the Nat Lib Party, I suspect Fez would want at least the 10 members, all to be very active within the MHoC for at least a few weeks before forming a Party (not speaking for Fez of course, just how I see it...)
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    I have indeed talked to Fez and he's given me (hopefully "us" in a few days) a few guidelines.

    1) Get support. Around 10 members, could be less, could be more.

    2) be active in the mHoC

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    So you want to bring back the liber party?
    Yes. The Libertarian party has been inactive long before I joined TSR, I was told. What did people think of them back in the day? What were their failures?
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    Awesome! A libertarian group! I would love to be involved.
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    (Original post by Galaxie501)
    I have indeed talked to Fez and he's given me (hopefully "us" in a few days) a few guidelines.

    1) Get support. Around 10 members, could be less, could be more.

    2) be active in the mHoC



    Yes. The Libertarian party has been inactive long before I joined TSR, I was told. What did people think of them back in the day? What were their failures?
    Basically the Libbers were one of teh best Parties in the house from what I understand. The issue it suffered from is the new generation, people gravitated more towards brands then they used to and eventually its membership died out and it couldn't sustain any activity anymore, essentially it was a Victim of brand name politics in the house.
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    (Original post by Aph)
    Basically the Libbers were one of teh best Parties in the house from what I understand. The issue it suffered from is the new generation, people gravitated more towards brands then they used to and eventually its membership died out and it couldn't sustain any activity anymore, essentially it was a Victim of brand name politics in the house.
    Thats sad to hear. If I understand you right that does sound an awful lot like actual politics. Especially in the US.

    Germany as well I suppose.
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    (Original post by Galaxie501)
    Thats sad to hear. If I understand you right that does sound an awful lot like actual politics. Especially in the US.

    Germany as well I suppose.
    No sure about Germany but yes to the US.
    The Tories and Labour are the big two and have a grasp on power and reject anything that can damage that grasp they have. It's unfortunate but such is life in the MHoC.
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    While I do not support Everything the libertarian party I will happily support it as its policies are Mostly In tune with my ideals
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    What are your thoughts on libertarian socialism?
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    (Original post by AperfectBalance)
    While I do not support Everything the libertarian party I will happily support it as its policies are Mostly In tune with my ideals
    Hello Balance,

    I'd be happy to add you to the list of supporters. Libertarianism is a very open ideology ranging from centrism to right wing and left wing libertarianism. What differentiates libertarianism from other ideologies is the rejection of authoritarian principles.

    So it can only be good to have some varying opinions.

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    What are your thoughts on libertarian socialism?
    I support the idea of basic universal health care. According to several political tests I am a centrist with strong libertarian leanings. On a sidenote: I do support abortion in case of rapes and teen pregnancies. Im am strongly against abortion as a form of birth control. You have to keep in mind that there are woman out there who advocate for infinite abortions, even if they're too lazy to use contraception.

    I do not support far ranging socialism because it is synonomous with a large state and that is one of the main issues that libertarianism opposes.

    The bigger the government, the more meaningless the individual. 10.000 years of civilization are clear on that.
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    It would be good to have a libertarian party, but I think a repeat of the Nat Libs should be avoided. Even if this gets 10 willing members, if I was Fez I would wait until an existing active MHoCer (we do have libertarians, after all) expresses their intention to get involved with this party/see whether a couple of the people mentioned are prepared to get involved with the MHoC(i.e. regularly commenting on bills, posting in the bar, maybe writing a couple of petitions) before approving it.
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    for a start the free market thing is a lie - there are libertarian socialists. your reportedly ‘free’ markets are only free for the slave masters whom oppress us. they just turn men into slaves and the 1% into dogs.
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    (Original post by Galaxie501)
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    (Original post by frankielogue)
    for a start the free market thing is a lie - there are libertarian socialists. your reportedly ‘free’ markets are only free for the slave masters whom oppress us. they just turn men into slaves and the 1% into dogs.
    Markets do need to be regulated, no doubt. Market regulation is a check and balance system. If you have an overregulated market you'll end up with something like Detroit: The largest GDP per capita in the US during the 60's, down to one of the poorest cities in North America.
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    I support!

    I've been looking to join the MHoC but none of the existing parties really appeal that much to me.
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    Wary of this after the Nat Libs.
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    (Original post by Airmed)
    Wary of this after the Nat Libs.
    Hopefully the big difference will be is that this Party seems to have a few more active members on TSR as a whole, so if the demonstrate by getting involved in the MhoC over the next couple weeks at least, it'd be more confident than the Nat Libs...
 
 
 
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