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How competitive are law conversion courses? And I would I be suitable.
I know this is probably a daft question, as no-one on here can really judge that well as to whether I'd be any good, but still... I would really like to hear from anyone who has experience of applying.
I'm currently doing an undergraduate degree in biology - and if all goes well, will hopefully come out with a 2:1. I know that I don't want a career in biology, and am begining to regret not having taken law, which I intended to at one point. My mum did law at uni 30 odd years ago, but went straight into a career in journalism, so can't give me any advice. Several of my close friends at uni study law, and from what I've seen of their work (and a little background reading I've recently been doing) a lot of it looks fascinating.
Trouble is, at sixteen, I made the decision to study sciences, so although I got A's at Alevel, I don't think the subjects would be of any use in law (bio, chem, maths, geog) would this count against me?
Even if I managed to get onto a conversion course, are they actually considered as equal to a full undergraduate law degree? I didn't know whether law firms would really consider someone who'd only studied the law for a year, when they have an ever increasing number of good law graduates to choose from.
Thoughts/opinions/advice welcomed.
Thanks!
I'm currently doing an undergraduate degree in biology - and if all goes well, will hopefully come out with a 2:1. I know that I don't want a career in biology, and am begining to regret not having taken law, which I intended to at one point. My mum did law at uni 30 odd years ago, but went straight into a career in journalism, so can't give me any advice. Several of my close friends at uni study law, and from what I've seen of their work (and a little background reading I've recently been doing) a lot of it looks fascinating.
Trouble is, at sixteen, I made the decision to study sciences, so although I got A's at Alevel, I don't think the subjects would be of any use in law (bio, chem, maths, geog) would this count against me?
Even if I managed to get onto a conversion course, are they actually considered as equal to a full undergraduate law degree? I didn't know whether law firms would really consider someone who'd only studied the law for a year, when they have an ever increasing number of good law graduates to choose from.
Thoughts/opinions/advice welcomed.
Thanks!
shinyhappy
I know this is probably a daft question, as no-one on here can really judge that well as to whether I'd be any good, but still... I would really like to hear from anyone who has experience of applying.
I'm currently doing an undergraduate degree in biology - and if all goes well, will hopefully come out with a 2:1. I know that I don't want a career in biology, and am begining to regret not having taken law, which I intended to at one point. My mum did law at uni 30 odd years ago, but went straight into a career in journalism, so can't give me any advice. Several of my close friends at uni study law, and from what I've seen of their work (and a little background reading I've recently been doing) a lot of it looks fascinating.
Trouble is, at sixteen, I made the decision to study sciences, so although I got A's at Alevel, I don't think the subjects would be of any use in law (bio, chem, maths, geog) would this count against me?
Even if I managed to get onto a conversion course, are they actually considered as equal to a full undergraduate law degree? I didn't know whether law firms would really consider someone who'd only studied the law for a year, when they have an ever increasing number of good law graduates to choose from.
Thoughts/opinions/advice welcomed.
Thanks!
I'm currently doing an undergraduate degree in biology - and if all goes well, will hopefully come out with a 2:1. I know that I don't want a career in biology, and am begining to regret not having taken law, which I intended to at one point. My mum did law at uni 30 odd years ago, but went straight into a career in journalism, so can't give me any advice. Several of my close friends at uni study law, and from what I've seen of their work (and a little background reading I've recently been doing) a lot of it looks fascinating.
Trouble is, at sixteen, I made the decision to study sciences, so although I got A's at Alevel, I don't think the subjects would be of any use in law (bio, chem, maths, geog) would this count against me?
Even if I managed to get onto a conversion course, are they actually considered as equal to a full undergraduate law degree? I didn't know whether law firms would really consider someone who'd only studied the law for a year, when they have an ever increasing number of good law graduates to choose from.
Thoughts/opinions/advice welcomed.
Thanks!
40-50% of trainees at the larger firms did a non-law degree and then the conversion course. You shouldn't be at a disadvantage.
As for science/maths A-levels, they're fine too as (arguably) they're evidence of a good analytical mind.
You don't need to worry about academics in terms of getting on the conversion course to be honest. It is similar to the LPC. They will take you so long as you can pay the fees. What's more important is getting a training contract at the end of it (you mention law firms, so presumably you want to be a solicitor) - that is where the competitive nature comes in. In this regard having the conversion course rather than a law degree will not put you at any disadvantage for the majority of firms, including big City law firms if that is what interests you. I have heard anecdotal evidence of some smaller firms preferring trainees to have studied Law, but bigger firms as chalks says take 40-50% non-Law graduates.
The Oxford University thing will go down well - get that 2:1, plenty of extra curriculars and some legal work experience and you will have nothing to worry about!
The Oxford University thing will go down well - get that 2:1, plenty of extra curriculars and some legal work experience and you will have nothing to worry about!
Shinyhappy, listen now, and listen good...I guaran-damn-tee that you will get onto a GDL course.
One question, though. Why law after a biology degree?
One question, though. Why law after a biology degree?
Newsflash: a 2:1 from oxford won't get you much further than a 2:1 from any number of unis! It's all about other stuff, ECs, responsibility etc etc.
Pernell Whitaker
Shinyhappy, listen now, and listen good...I guaran-damn-tee that you will get onto a GDL course.
One question, though. Why law after a biology degree?
One question, though. Why law after a biology degree?
That's certainly what you'll be asked at TC interviews!
Lewisy-boy
Newsflash: a 2:1 from oxford won't get you much further than a 2:1 from any number of unis! It's all about other stuff, ECs, responsibility etc etc.
Come now, you know a degree from Oxbridge, LSE and possibly UCL will put you miles ahead of even the very closest competitor in the same degree class. Behave. These unis aren't so revered because they're on the same level as Durham, etc. Just because it says on the Freshfields recruitment page that 'we aren't an Oxbridge club any more, any Russell group uni has a chance' etc etc, doesn't mean its true any more than the Daily Mail insisting that it doesn't hate gays, single parents and immigrants automatically makes this the case.
to engage in this irrelevant oxbridge discussion - there was a group on facebook for freshfields summer vac scheme people working in one of their fortnightly slots. out of the 20 or so members, all were oxbridge apart from one LSE student. furthermore, if you have a look through the lists of lawyers in their london office on the website, almost every profile you click on will state 'educated at xxx college, oxbridge'.
i wouldn't say that it's a bias the firms have; rather an inevitable situation as oxbridge students are likely to be better on paper. and, from what it seems, attending oxbridge sees the firms coming to you, sponsoring dinners etc far more than at any other university.
i don't think there's anything wrong with this; it's been like that for years and always will be. and i believe that each applicant really does succeed or fail in applications based on individual merit, regardless of their university.
i wouldn't say that it's a bias the firms have; rather an inevitable situation as oxbridge students are likely to be better on paper. and, from what it seems, attending oxbridge sees the firms coming to you, sponsoring dinners etc far more than at any other university.
i don't think there's anything wrong with this; it's been like that for years and always will be. and i believe that each applicant really does succeed or fail in applications based on individual merit, regardless of their university.
Anyone who lets university bias get in their way, doesn't deserve to be a successful solicitor or barrister.
End of story.
End of story.
I think you'd be very suitable 
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Original post by GRD
Do oxford and cambridge offer law conversion courses?
Old thread this. It's generally better to start a new one...
Oxford and Cambridge both (I think) offer an accelerated, two-year law degree course. This will exempt you from the GDL, like all law degrees.
However, they do not offer the GDL or LPC/BTPC itself. Various places do these courses and you will generally be judged on the quality of your original degree rather than the institution at which you did a conversion course. For instance, BPP/College of Law/NTU are not exactly renowned for their undergraduate degrees, but see a lot of good quality students going through their courses on the way to a training contract or pupillage.
Original post by michael321
Old thread this. It's generally better to start a new one...
Oxford and Cambridge both (I think) offer an accelerated, two-year law degree course. This will exempt you from the GDL, like all law degrees.
Oxford and Cambridge both (I think) offer an accelerated, two-year law degree course. This will exempt you from the GDL, like all law degrees.
They both do, yes.
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