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Why are GCSE's even considered?? I find it astounding..

Surely Cambridge should look at more in depth courses such as A-level and not bother with GCSE's. Why is there a need to have amazing GCSE's results? I will probably get AAA however my GCSE results are pretty rubbish taking into account the fact that I was inserted into the English education system directly into the GCSE's (of which I did approximitaly 1 year and a half, and econ and business just 1 year) without any knowledge of English, therefore I managed to get some mediocre grades, 1 A*, 2A's, 5B, 4C. I was thinking of applying to cambridge but I see a lot of emphasis is put on the GCSE results and I think it's quite unfair really since in my school teachers refered to these particular exams as just an indication of what you might be doing for your A-levels and never was I educated properly on the importance they have when applying to Uni. Anyway enough of my ranting, Ill let you get on with more important stuff :smile:.

P.s Enjoy your holidays!

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Reply 1

Alexdel
Surely Cambridge should look at more in depth courses such as A-level and not bother with GCSE's. Why is there a need to have amazing GCSE's results? I will probably get AAA however my GCSE results are pretty rubbish taking into account the fact that I was inserted into the English education system directly into the GCSE's (of which I did approximitaly 1 year and a half, and econ and business just 1 year) without any knowledge of English, therefore I managed to get some mediocre grades, 1 A*, 2A's, 5B, 4C. I was thinking of applying to cambridge but I see a lot of emphasis is put on the GCSE results and I think it's quite unfair really since in my school teachers refered to these particular exams as just an indication of what you might be doing for your A-levels and never was I educated properly on the importance they have when applying to Uni. Anyway enough of my ranting, Ill let you get on with more important stuff :smile:.

P.s Enjoy your holidays!


If you can account for your results, you won't necessarily have a problem. You can hardly expect GCSEs to be ignored in the application process, 'though. Why would a university deliberately neglect one of the few indicators they have of a candidate's abilities?

Reply 2

GCSEs are just one of the many things they take into account. But bear in mind that if they are making you an offer based on predicted A2 grades, GCSEs are the only qualifications they have to place they trust in that you will get the grades.

Ask your teachers to explain in your reference why you think you underachived at GCSE.

Reply 3

Alexdel
Surely Cambridge should look at more in depth courses such as A-level and not bother with GCSE's. Why is there a need to have amazing GCSE's results? I will probably get AAA however my GCSE results are pretty rubbish taking into account the fact that I was inserted into the English education system directly into the GCSE's (of which I did approximitaly 1 year and a half, and econ and business just 1 year) without any knowledge of English, therefore I managed to get some mediocre grades, 1 A*, 2A's, 5B, 4C. I was thinking of applying to cambridge but I see a lot of emphasis is put on the GCSE results and I think it's quite unfair really since in my school teachers refered to these particular exams as just an indication of what you might be doing for your A-levels and never was I educated properly on the importance they have when applying to Uni. Anyway enough of my ranting, Ill let you get on with more important stuff :smile:.

P.s Enjoy your holidays!


I disagree, since when you apply to oxbridge, GCSE's are the most recent qualifications you have acquired; since you haven't actually finished your A levels yet. Strictly speaking, you have no A levels when you apply.

Reply 4

So your application will be based on some superficial exams set 2-3 years ago at a time when the most important thing in your life was in fact...experiencing life? Also strictly speaking people will have their As results, to me that is a greater indication of pupils progress than GCSE's half of which the major part of students dont even take seriously (Re, PE in my case,Business which is ridiculed when applying to unis, IT) I won't even go further because I might offend some people who actually like them but seriously what kind of indication are these exams on how well you will be doing in Economics at cambridge, in which maths plays a major part.

Reply 5

Alexdel
So your application will be based on some superficial exams set 2-3 years ago at a time when the most important thing in your life was in fact...experiencing life?


It sounds like you're feeling pretty insecure about your GCSE results. Like you, I didn't care a great deal about them when I took the exams, but I wouldn't attack them for stopping people from "experiencing life". Oxbridge want students who work hard, and those who have shown they can apply themselves from an early age (e.g. those who get outstanding GCSE results) can hardly be faulted by their admissions process.

Having said that, I don't believe GCSEs are the most important factor in your application...not even close. If two candidates are very similar, then superior GCSE results will be advantageous, but I think all universities are looking for students that will achieve in the future, not necessarily those that have achieved in the past...if you apply and have the right attitude, I'm sure mediocre GCSE grades will not matter.

Reply 6

Thanks for the reply, well Ill try anyway. If I had done the exams in my language even while not concentrating a lot Im pretty sure I would have got better marks but hey thats life.

Reply 7

You don't have to justify your results. I'm sure you're an intelligent person. :smile: Good universities will be understanding of personal circumstances when you apply.

Reply 8

Research would suggest that a strong performance at GCSE is a better indicator of academic ability than a correspondingly good set of A-level results. However, research would also suggest that both GCSEs and A-levels, on the whole, are rather poor indicators of those who will perform best on a demanding HE course.

...Make of that what you will.

Reply 9

Yes I completely agree, and the number of saddos from private schools/grammar schools who've been reared since the age of 1 to get into Oxbridge is incredible, so when they get like a couple of grades higher their ego inflates and they think they rule the world.

How gay.

Reply 10

Invisible
Yes I completely agree, and the number of saddos from private schools/grammar schools who've been reared since the age of 1 to get into Oxbridge is incredible, so when they get like a couple of grades higher their ego inflates and they think they rule the world.

How gay.


Yeah, but those people often don't get in as they're not actually that clever, they've just been coached. And tutors can see through that.

Just sayin'.

Reply 11

d750
If you can account for your results, you won't necessarily have a problem. You can hardly expect GCSEs to be ignored in the application process, 'though. Why would a university deliberately neglect one of the few indicators they have of a candidate's abilities?


Because at A-Level it's more down to the student than how fat their parent's pockets are.

Reply 12

Invisible
Because at A-Level it's more down to the student than how fat their parent's pockets are.


If A levels are better indicators than GCSEs, it still doesn't mean that GCSEs should be ignored. They are reasonably important for university applications.

Reply 13

d750
If A levels are better indicators than GCSEs, it still doesn't mean that GCSEs should be ignored. They are reasonably important for university applications.



Problem is I wasnt told that while I was doing them which is one of the reasons why I find it unjust.

Reply 14

Because there is a greater correlation between GCSE results and degree outcome - according to research!

Reply 15

Alexdel
Problem is I wasnt told that while I was doing them which is one of the reasons why I find it unjust.
That isn't Cambridge's fault though; as far as I know Cambridge, or any university in fact, has ever said GCSEs aren't important - there're an important part of the UCAS application, they wouldn't asked for them if there weren't relevant.

Reply 16

Because if you did well at GCSE and A levels, that shows a sustained commitment to study, a quality you'll need for a degree. It's only one of many indicators anyway, I shouldn't worry too much, I've known people with fairly mediocre grades at GCSE to get into Oxbridge.

Reply 17

GCSE's test your ability to organise your times wisely, and that's about it. Just doing a single GCSE isn't that hard at all, but it's doing a whole load in a limited timeframe that is the real test.

Reply 18

jonas123
GCSE's test your ability to organise your times wisely, and that's about it. Just doing a single GCSE isn't that hard at all, but it's doing a whole load in a limited timeframe that is the real test.


And that's why I find it ironic when people do 7/8 GCSE's and get nearly all A*'s, when infact doing another 3 makes a huge difference.

Reply 19

Ellie4
Because if you did well at GCSE and A levels, that shows a sustained commitment to study, a quality you'll need for a degree. It's only one of many indicators anyway, I shouldn't worry too much, I've known people with fairly mediocre grades at GCSE to get into Oxbridge.


He's applying to the wrong uni anyway, Oxford is the one.