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Resources for Leftist/Marxist/Progressive posters.

I though it might be useful to share our favourite links which arm us with the tools to combat the right.

Here is a site that's definately worth a scout around:

Global Issues: http://www.globalissues.org/

Chris Harman's People's History of the World: http://www.istendency.net/node/view/7

Doug Dowd articles: http://www.dougdowd.org/NewFiles/articlesmain.html

New Left Review articles: http://newleftreview.org/

Free Documentaries (check out 'The Corporation especially): http://freedocumentaries.org/

Anyone else like to discuss/share the resources they like to use?

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Reply 2
Oswy
I though it might be useful to share our favourite links which arm us with the tools to combat the right.

I can understand the anti-capitalism of the ignorant moderate left, but shouldn't the far left - to be consistent - welcome classical liberal initiatives to a) get back to the paradigm which Marx describes and b) hasten its demise?

Look at, for example, Lenin's opposition to Russian government intervention after the famine of 1891, and the scorn which he poured upon relief efforts organised by Russophiles like Tolstoy.

And, after all, the more "right-wing" we become and the nearer we get to fascism (the final stage, of course, before socialism; contractions, to continue the natal theme), the sooner the collapse of this decadent system.

So on purely politically-efficacious grounds, why do far-lefties oppose more free-markets, when they're supposed to be the harbinger of revolution?

EDIT: Oh, and, Thud - it's called St Petersburg, not Leningrad. Unless you're still living in the Cold War.
Reply 3
How about actually looking at non-propaganda like the NY Times, CNN, BBC, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, the Economist, Financial Times, and the Times of London?
Reply 4
Bismarck
How about actually looking at non-propaganda like the NY Times, CNN, BBC, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, the Economist, Financial Times, and the Times of London?

The Economist and the Times are left-wing? :confused:
Gilliwoo
The Economist and the Times are left-wing? :confused:


I think he means we should be looking at neutral outlets, rather than ones with easy-to-spot political leanings. But of course, that's no fun.
Reply 6
Gilliwoo
The Economist and the Times are left-wing? :confused:


No, but I'd consider the Economist to be almost smack bang in the centre.
Reply 7
Gilliwoo
The Economist and the Times are left-wing? :confused:


My point is that Oswy seems to hold a certain world view and only wants to read papers that will tell him what he wants to hear.
Reply 8
Its not a case of 'combatting the right' either. More traditionally left wing ways of doing things might work better for certain issues than right wing ones. If thats the case, why try to say otherwise just for ideological consistancy? The point of these theories is that they're meant to be practical and helpful in real life.
Reply 9
Bismarck
My point is that Oswy seems to hold a certain world view and only wants to read papers that will tell him what he wants to hear.


Presumably you hold 'a certain world view' also and only read certain materials which which relate to that view. Or are you going to tell me that you read Marxist newspapers regularly just in case they have something valuable to say?

Most damning is your earlier post when you tried to posit certain newspapers as if non-propaganda which in fact normativise and promote the processes of capitalism and are well known for doing so. The Times not politically orientated?! C'mon, you're smarter than that.
Thud
why dont you just read unprincipled terrorist supporters weekly?


Link?
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Reply 15
Oswy
Presumably you hold 'a certain world view' also and only read certain materials which which relate to that view. Or are you going to tell me that you read Marxist newspapers regularly just in case they have something valuable to say?

Most damning is your earlier post when you tried to posit certain newspapers as if non-propaganda which in fact normativise and promote the processes of capitalism and are well known for doing so. The Times not politically orientated?! C'mon, you're smarter than that.


I read sources that provide me with information. I don't care if the information is biased: it can easily be worked out which piece of information fits with the source's political/economic leanings and thus shouldn't be taken at face value unless confirmed elsewhere. And a good 90% of the things I read at university were things I didn't agree with. It's irrelevant. If a source provides information that others don't or merely gloss over, then it's a good source. If I was to only read right-wing papers, I'd be missing at least half the story.

And you might want to get some tinfoil if you believe papers like the NY Times and the Washington Post are trying to promote capitalism. Will you please drop your conspiracy theories and try to think rationally for a moment?
Reply 16
http://progressivemajoritywisconsin.org/index.php/blog/action/viewBlogPosting/blog_posting_id/135

That is one of the worst articles I've ever read. Not only did I not really find out what Walker was blocking, I didn’t even get told why what he was blocking was classed subjectively as 'progress'. It was basically just a character assassination on the person. some other most read article was about how much worse things would be in Iraq under Cheney. Why waste characters on such pointless counterfactualism? Half of this crap is self defeating and self serving. I don’t get why people like creating their own virtual reality.
Reply 17
Thud
oh christ...did someone seriously just suggest socialist worker? why dont you just read unprincipled terrorist supporters weekly?


A little while ago I read a "Marxism for beginners" pamphlet by the SWP that I picked up at a second hand bookstall, honestly, you've never seen such a load of propaganda :rolleyes:
Reply 18
ukebert
A little while ago I read a "Marxism for beginners" pamphlet by the SWP that I picked up at a second hand bookstall, honestly, you've never seen such a load of propaganda :rolleyes:


A better title would be "Intellectual beginners for Marxism".
Reply 19
And you might want to get some tinfoil if you believe papers like the NY Times and the Washington Post are trying to promote capitalism. Will you please drop your conspiracy theories and try to think rationally for a moment? Bismarck.


Mainstream media present no critique of how society works in favour of capital, no dissent as to the capitalist machinery which their profitability depends upon (should we be surprised?). Papers which carry adverts placed by capitalist enterprise are promoting capitalism. Also, I notice how you've switched from my question about The Times, to the citing of other papers; nice attempted sidestep.

And, of course, you have to label me a conspiracy nut just so as to ensure that my opinion is suitably trivialised. How rational is such a personal attack in a discussion forum?

What's amusing is that instead of right-wingers posting resources links which defend their position they've taken to childish sniping in an attempt to trivialise a thread which wasn't even intended for their engagement. It's oh so predictable.

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