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Anonymous because I don't want to get anyone in trouble :\
Basically, I'm self employed. So minimum wage, holiday entitlement, these are all phrases that don't really apply.
I'm self employed but basically my services are used exclusively by one place and I've been here five years (three years full time, 2 part, near enough). I've only been self employed the three years.
I've known my boss for about 12 years. I consider him a friend.
But I feel so trapped right now.
I've known I need something to change and so I'm going to apply to uni and I'm very excited about this
I will have a New Life come Sept 08! My boss knows and it suits him as the company may not be here then he is planning to move away around then etc anyway.
But god. It's 61 weeks away, give or take.
I work five days out of Mon-Sat a week. I book my day off in advance according to how busy we are/when suits.
In preparation for Uni I'm using my weekly 'off day' to visit places, get work experience. This, of course, involves booking things elsewhere. My first problem came with wanting to have 2 days off together. Bear in mind I've had maybe 3 days off sick this year, nothing more. No holiday. So I asked my boss about these two days a month ago, he said ok, I booked them and said I'd use the 2nd day as my day off from the following week. He's now going away for two weeks so I'll work six days a week those 2 weeks.
Now he says we need to do something on one of those days. I wailed, "Nooooooo!" and he says we can't put the whole business on hold because I want an extra day off, especially as he is going away for two weeks. Understandably, I feel, this upset me quite a bit since I had already booked this time and got clearance from the work experience place. I still don't know for sure, and I have to cancel if necessary before Monday/Tuesday
I don't want to mess them around for giving me the chance
Yesterday I had my day off and he left some papers on my desk, as usual. Which is what he always does and I put them in my tray. Today he says "where's the <item>?" And I'm like "what?" He says "it wasn't delivered yesterday with the rest". "Oh.." "I left the delivery note for you, you were meant to chase it up" (no note indicating this, bear in mind the missing item is one I don't see day-to-day when we have it in coz he keeps them...) "Well you always leave the notes on my desk." "this is your job! You're meant to do these things! Don't make excuses.."
No one told me I had to be psychic
I hate my job I can't have a holiday without feeling like I'm taking liberties
I don't even get minimum wage.
I don't have a lunch hour. More like a lunch ten minutes in the back
I work Saturdays I don't get to go away for a weekend I never have a Saturday off I'm dreading asking about the Saturday open day There's even a Friday one before it and I've written that off completely... dread to think.. a long weekend off? That's pushing it isn't it...
It's a treat if I get to go outside to even pay cheques in to the business. Don't be silly! I don't have time to even peek in a couple of shops like a normal person on their lunch hour...
So quit.. well.. I can't. No one else is here to do what I do. Even if my boss does think I troll forums and chat ALLL day... he can't do this stuff. And I've known him for so long.
I can't quit
But I'd like to go work in Sainsbury's or something and get more money and more flexibility.. sigh.
Whine over
Basically, I'm self employed. So minimum wage, holiday entitlement, these are all phrases that don't really apply.
I'm self employed but basically my services are used exclusively by one place and I've been here five years (three years full time, 2 part, near enough). I've only been self employed the three years.
I've known my boss for about 12 years. I consider him a friend.
But I feel so trapped right now.
I've known I need something to change and so I'm going to apply to uni and I'm very excited about this
I will have a New Life come Sept 08! My boss knows and it suits him as the company may not be here then he is planning to move away around then etc anyway.But god. It's 61 weeks away, give or take.
I work five days out of Mon-Sat a week. I book my day off in advance according to how busy we are/when suits.
In preparation for Uni I'm using my weekly 'off day' to visit places, get work experience. This, of course, involves booking things elsewhere. My first problem came with wanting to have 2 days off together. Bear in mind I've had maybe 3 days off sick this year, nothing more. No holiday. So I asked my boss about these two days a month ago, he said ok, I booked them and said I'd use the 2nd day as my day off from the following week. He's now going away for two weeks so I'll work six days a week those 2 weeks.
Now he says we need to do something on one of those days. I wailed, "Nooooooo!" and he says we can't put the whole business on hold because I want an extra day off, especially as he is going away for two weeks. Understandably, I feel, this upset me quite a bit since I had already booked this time and got clearance from the work experience place. I still don't know for sure, and I have to cancel if necessary before Monday/Tuesday
I don't want to mess them around for giving me the chance Yesterday I had my day off and he left some papers on my desk, as usual. Which is what he always does and I put them in my tray. Today he says "where's the <item>?" And I'm like "what?" He says "it wasn't delivered yesterday with the rest". "Oh.." "I left the delivery note for you, you were meant to chase it up" (no note indicating this, bear in mind the missing item is one I don't see day-to-day when we have it in coz he keeps them...) "Well you always leave the notes on my desk." "this is your job! You're meant to do these things! Don't make excuses.."
No one told me I had to be psychic
I hate my job
I can't have a holiday without feeling like I'm taking liberties I don't even get minimum wage.
I don't have a lunch hour.
More like a lunch ten minutes in the back I work Saturdays
I don't get to go away for a weekend I never have a Saturday off I'm dreading asking about the Saturday open day There's even a Friday one before it and I've written that off completely... dread to think.. a long weekend off? That's pushing it isn't it...It's a treat if I get to go outside to even pay cheques in to the business. Don't be silly! I don't have time to even peek in a couple of shops like a normal person on their lunch hour...
So quit.. well.. I can't. No one else is here to do what I do. Even if my boss does think I troll forums and chat ALLL day... he can't do this stuff. And I've known him for so long.
I can't quit
But I'd like to go work in Sainsbury's or something and get more money and more flexibility.. sigh.
Whine over
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Anonymous
Anonymous because I don't want to get anyone in trouble :\
Basically, I'm self employed. So minimum wage, holiday entitlement, these are all phrases that don't really apply.
I'm self employed but basically my services are used exclusively by one place and I've been here five years (three years full time, 2 part, near enough). I've only been self employed the three years.
I've known my boss for about 12 years. I consider him a friend.
But I feel so trapped right now.
I've known I need something to change and so I'm going to apply to uni and I'm very excited about this I will have a New Life come Sept 08! My boss knows and it suits him as the company may not be here then he is planning to move away around then etc anyway.
But god. It's 61 weeks away, give or take.
I work five days out of Mon-Sat a week. I book my day off in advance according to how busy we are/when suits.
In preparation for Uni I'm using my weekly 'off day' to visit places, get work experience. This, of course, involves booking things elsewhere. My first problem came with wanting to have 2 days off together. Bear in mind I've had maybe 3 days off sick this year, nothing more. No holiday. So I asked my boss about these two days a month ago, he said ok, I booked them and said I'd use the 2nd day as my day off from the following week. He's now going away for two weeks so I'll work six days a week those 2 weeks.
Now he says we need to do something on one of those days. I wailed, "Nooooooo!" and he says we can't put the whole business on hold because I want an extra day off, especially as he is going away for two weeks. Understandably, I feel, this upset me quite a bit since I had already booked this time and got clearance from the work experience place. I still don't know for sure, and I have to cancel if necessary before Monday/Tuesday I don't want to mess them around for giving me the chance
Yesterday I had my day off and he left some papers on my desk, as usual. Which is what he always does and I put them in my tray. Today he says "where's the <item>?" And I'm like "what?" He says "it wasn't delivered yesterday with the rest". "Oh.." "I left the delivery note for you, you were meant to chase it up" (no note indicating this, bear in mind the missing item is one I don't see day-to-day when we have it in coz he keeps them...) "Well you always leave the notes on my desk." "this is your job! You're meant to do these things! Don't make excuses.."
No one told me I had to be psychic
I hate my job I can't have a holiday without feeling like I'm taking liberties
I don't even get minimum wage.
I don't have a lunch hour. More like a lunch ten minutes in the back
I work Saturdays I don't get to go away for a weekend I never have a Saturday off I'm dreading asking about the Saturday open day There's even a Friday one before it and I've written that off completely... dread to think.. a long weekend off? That's pushing it isn't it...
It's a treat if I get to go outside to even pay cheques in to the business. Don't be silly! I don't have time to even peek in a couple of shops like a normal person on their lunch hour...
So quit.. well.. I can't. No one else is here to do what I do. Even if my boss does think I troll forums and chat ALLL day... he can't do this stuff. And I've known him for so long.
I can't quit
But I'd like to go work in Sainsbury's or something and get more money and more flexibility.. sigh.
Whine over
Basically, I'm self employed. So minimum wage, holiday entitlement, these are all phrases that don't really apply.
I'm self employed but basically my services are used exclusively by one place and I've been here five years (three years full time, 2 part, near enough). I've only been self employed the three years.
I've known my boss for about 12 years. I consider him a friend.
But I feel so trapped right now.
I've known I need something to change and so I'm going to apply to uni and I'm very excited about this
I will have a New Life come Sept 08! My boss knows and it suits him as the company may not be here then he is planning to move away around then etc anyway.But god. It's 61 weeks away, give or take.
I work five days out of Mon-Sat a week. I book my day off in advance according to how busy we are/when suits.
In preparation for Uni I'm using my weekly 'off day' to visit places, get work experience. This, of course, involves booking things elsewhere. My first problem came with wanting to have 2 days off together. Bear in mind I've had maybe 3 days off sick this year, nothing more. No holiday. So I asked my boss about these two days a month ago, he said ok, I booked them and said I'd use the 2nd day as my day off from the following week. He's now going away for two weeks so I'll work six days a week those 2 weeks.
Now he says we need to do something on one of those days. I wailed, "Nooooooo!" and he says we can't put the whole business on hold because I want an extra day off, especially as he is going away for two weeks. Understandably, I feel, this upset me quite a bit since I had already booked this time and got clearance from the work experience place. I still don't know for sure, and I have to cancel if necessary before Monday/Tuesday
I don't want to mess them around for giving me the chance Yesterday I had my day off and he left some papers on my desk, as usual. Which is what he always does and I put them in my tray. Today he says "where's the <item>?" And I'm like "what?" He says "it wasn't delivered yesterday with the rest". "Oh.." "I left the delivery note for you, you were meant to chase it up" (no note indicating this, bear in mind the missing item is one I don't see day-to-day when we have it in coz he keeps them...) "Well you always leave the notes on my desk." "this is your job! You're meant to do these things! Don't make excuses.."
No one told me I had to be psychic
I hate my job
I can't have a holiday without feeling like I'm taking liberties I don't even get minimum wage.
I don't have a lunch hour.
More like a lunch ten minutes in the back I work Saturdays
I don't get to go away for a weekend I never have a Saturday off I'm dreading asking about the Saturday open day There's even a Friday one before it and I've written that off completely... dread to think.. a long weekend off? That's pushing it isn't it...It's a treat if I get to go outside to even pay cheques in to the business. Don't be silly! I don't have time to even peek in a couple of shops like a normal person on their lunch hour...
So quit.. well.. I can't. No one else is here to do what I do. Even if my boss does think I troll forums and chat ALLL day... he can't do this stuff. And I've known him for so long.
I can't quit
But I'd like to go work in Sainsbury's or something and get more money and more flexibility.. sigh.
Whine over
Meh.. I didn't finish and that's a lot of sad smilies lol..
I just dunno how to keep going like this for another year. I hold onto each open day and work experience visit and get through week by week but it's so hard... work on my ucas app etc.. going to evening classes this year..
wah
Anonymous
Anonymous because I don't want to get anyone in trouble :\
Basically, I'm self employed. So minimum wage, holiday entitlement, these are all phrases that don't really apply.
I'm self employed but basically my services are used exclusively by one place and I've been here five years (three years full time, 2 part, near enough). I've only been self employed the three years.
I've known my boss for about 12 years. I consider him a friend.
But I feel so trapped right now.
I've known I need something to change and so I'm going to apply to uni and I'm very excited about this I will have a New Life come Sept 08! My boss knows and it suits him as the company may not be here then he is planning to move away around then etc anyway.
But god. It's 61 weeks away, give or take.
I work five days out of Mon-Sat a week. I book my day off in advance according to how busy we are/when suits.
In preparation for Uni I'm using my weekly 'off day' to visit places, get work experience. This, of course, involves booking things elsewhere. My first problem came with wanting to have 2 days off together. Bear in mind I've had maybe 3 days off sick this year, nothing more. No holiday. So I asked my boss about these two days a month ago, he said ok, I booked them and said I'd use the 2nd day as my day off from the following week. He's now going away for two weeks so I'll work six days a week those 2 weeks.
Now he says we need to do something on one of those days. I wailed, "Nooooooo!" and he says we can't put the whole business on hold because I want an extra day off, especially as he is going away for two weeks. Understandably, I feel, this upset me quite a bit since I had already booked this time and got clearance from the work experience place. I still don't know for sure, and I have to cancel if necessary before Monday/Tuesday I don't want to mess them around for giving me the chance
Yesterday I had my day off and he left some papers on my desk, as usual. Which is what he always does and I put them in my tray. Today he says "where's the <item>?" And I'm like "what?" He says "it wasn't delivered yesterday with the rest". "Oh.." "I left the delivery note for you, you were meant to chase it up" (no note indicating this, bear in mind the missing item is one I don't see day-to-day when we have it in coz he keeps them...) "Well you always leave the notes on my desk." "this is your job! You're meant to do these things! Don't make excuses.."
No one told me I had to be psychic
I hate my job I can't have a holiday without feeling like I'm taking liberties
I don't even get minimum wage.
I don't have a lunch hour. More like a lunch ten minutes in the back
I work Saturdays I don't get to go away for a weekend I never have a Saturday off I'm dreading asking about the Saturday open day There's even a Friday one before it and I've written that off completely... dread to think.. a long weekend off? That's pushing it isn't it...
It's a treat if I get to go outside to even pay cheques in to the business. Don't be silly! I don't have time to even peek in a couple of shops like a normal person on their lunch hour...
So quit.. well.. I can't. No one else is here to do what I do. Even if my boss does think I troll forums and chat ALLL day... he can't do this stuff. And I've known him for so long.
I can't quit
But I'd like to go work in Sainsbury's or something and get more money and more flexibility.. sigh.
Whine over
Basically, I'm self employed. So minimum wage, holiday entitlement, these are all phrases that don't really apply.
I'm self employed but basically my services are used exclusively by one place and I've been here five years (three years full time, 2 part, near enough). I've only been self employed the three years.
I've known my boss for about 12 years. I consider him a friend.
But I feel so trapped right now.
I've known I need something to change and so I'm going to apply to uni and I'm very excited about this
I will have a New Life come Sept 08! My boss knows and it suits him as the company may not be here then he is planning to move away around then etc anyway.But god. It's 61 weeks away, give or take.
I work five days out of Mon-Sat a week. I book my day off in advance according to how busy we are/when suits.
In preparation for Uni I'm using my weekly 'off day' to visit places, get work experience. This, of course, involves booking things elsewhere. My first problem came with wanting to have 2 days off together. Bear in mind I've had maybe 3 days off sick this year, nothing more. No holiday. So I asked my boss about these two days a month ago, he said ok, I booked them and said I'd use the 2nd day as my day off from the following week. He's now going away for two weeks so I'll work six days a week those 2 weeks.
Now he says we need to do something on one of those days. I wailed, "Nooooooo!" and he says we can't put the whole business on hold because I want an extra day off, especially as he is going away for two weeks. Understandably, I feel, this upset me quite a bit since I had already booked this time and got clearance from the work experience place. I still don't know for sure, and I have to cancel if necessary before Monday/Tuesday
I don't want to mess them around for giving me the chance Yesterday I had my day off and he left some papers on my desk, as usual. Which is what he always does and I put them in my tray. Today he says "where's the <item>?" And I'm like "what?" He says "it wasn't delivered yesterday with the rest". "Oh.." "I left the delivery note for you, you were meant to chase it up" (no note indicating this, bear in mind the missing item is one I don't see day-to-day when we have it in coz he keeps them...) "Well you always leave the notes on my desk." "this is your job! You're meant to do these things! Don't make excuses.."
No one told me I had to be psychic
I hate my job
I can't have a holiday without feeling like I'm taking liberties I don't even get minimum wage.
I don't have a lunch hour.
More like a lunch ten minutes in the back I work Saturdays
I don't get to go away for a weekend I never have a Saturday off I'm dreading asking about the Saturday open day There's even a Friday one before it and I've written that off completely... dread to think.. a long weekend off? That's pushing it isn't it...It's a treat if I get to go outside to even pay cheques in to the business. Don't be silly! I don't have time to even peek in a couple of shops like a normal person on their lunch hour...
So quit.. well.. I can't. No one else is here to do what I do. Even if my boss does think I troll forums and chat ALLL day... he can't do this stuff. And I've known him for so long.
I can't quit
But I'd like to go work in Sainsbury's or something and get more money and more flexibility.. sigh.
Whine over
Erm.. why can't you quit? Just because you've known him for so long and done the job for ages that doesn't mean you have to stay there. You're not even on minimum wage.. you're getting a really ****** deal. You'll go to uni and have a great time, and when you come back you should send out some CV's or register with an agency and get some real work. It might be abit awkward quitting your job and piling the pressure on your boss but you don't owe it to him. You have to look after number one.
I forgot to mention how I feel guilty for getting paid :\ That's not right is it.. I mean.. I DO work.. I do a lot of stuff.. urgh...
I would feel so guilty if I quit And someone I know through the company helpswith my tax return etc...
I could still see him outside of it I guess but quitting is so bizarre.. my boss says things like "still got a year to go yet!" like in the example where I wasn't psychic... and I just think "yeah... tell me about it"
And someone I know through the company helpswith my tax return etc...I could still see him outside of it I guess but quitting is so bizarre.. my boss says things like "still got a year to go yet!" like in the example where I wasn't psychic... and I just think "yeah... tell me about it
"I'm shop manager.. entails a lot of things.. computer shop so we do also setup/help networks and average people so I go on site doing those things.
You just reminded me about the reference. :| I count on it for my uni app... it'll be a good reference...
You just reminded me about the reference. :| I count on it for my uni app... it'll be a good reference...
Anonymous
I'm shop manager.. entails a lot of things.. computer shop so we do also setup/help networks and average people so I go on site doing those things.
You just reminded me about the reference. :| I count on it for my uni app... it'll be a good reference...
You just reminded me about the reference. :| I count on it for my uni app... it'll be a good reference...
If it's a good reference it may be worth sticking it out till uni then. However after that, if you're unhappy with working there you should look for an alternative job.
There's a lot that could be said in my reference from here which will apply to my chosen (vocational) course.. so maybe at least until I apply.
Some days are harder than others
Some days are harder than others
For freaks sake...you need to leave mate. You can't live your life trying to make others happy when it puts you at such a disadvantage.
Hand in your notice. Claim you want to get involved in a job relating to your future career or something; anything. If I were you, I would have left ages ago.
Hand in your notice. Claim you want to get involved in a job relating to your future career or something; anything. If I were you, I would have left ages ago.
Anonymous
I would feel so guilty if I quit
Claim you want to get involved in a job relating to your future career or something; anything. If I were you, I would have left ages ago.
Truth is I'd be happy at Sainsbury's though! And he'd see me every week! He's still a friend..
and if it does then they should have been paying you more
That's not possible in the world of retail. It's horrible to get by as it is. I know those pressures, the company is in hot water anyway.. maybe that's why I feel guilty about being paid
Um... I don't get how you can classify yourself as being self-employed... I get the impression you are an employee and the whole self-employed facade is just a way of you being denied your rights as an employee (min wage, holiday entitlements etc). It doesn't really sound kosher.
Seeing as you've still got a year, it's worth looking for something else - it would be different if you just had to tolerate it for a few weeks/months, but it doesn't sound worth it.
It may be difficult, what with your boss being a friend, but give him some excuse about wanting to try something different. Use the "it's not you, it's me" line so as not to offend
(blame it on yourself - you don't have to say that he's using you like a piece of **** or anything)
Seeing as you've still got a year, it's worth looking for something else - it would be different if you just had to tolerate it for a few weeks/months, but it doesn't sound worth it.
It may be difficult, what with your boss being a friend, but give him some excuse about wanting to try something different. Use the "it's not you, it's me" line so as not to offend
(blame it on yourself - you don't have to say that he's using you like a piece of **** or anything)It's not just 'calling' myself self employed. I'm registered self employed with The Powers That Be and that is how I handle my tax etc, how I pay my national insurance.
I still don't think I'm strong enough. I need to get that good reference for my UCAS app too :\
I still don't think I'm strong enough. I need to get that good reference for my UCAS app too :\
You say he is a friend? He probably doesn't realise it has gone beyond you working a few hours as a favour and are starting to resent it.
Sit down by yourself and draw up a list of your demands, like needing a set wage, set job tasks in advance and everything else then take him for a beer and explain that you can't work for him under these conditions and if he doesn't meet you half way then you will go.
Sit down by yourself and draw up a list of your demands, like needing a set wage, set job tasks in advance and everything else then take him for a beer and explain that you can't work for him under these conditions and if he doesn't meet you half way then you will go.
Do you actually know what 'self-employed' means?
Sigh. Of course. I've been doing this three years. It's only a small company, independent retailer etc. It's easier accounting wise (which I take care of for the company).
I know what your point is, of course. It's just not that clear cut. I invoice the company for my services each month etc. I AM self-employed from a legal standpoint.
You say he is a friend? He probably doesn't realise it has gone beyond you working a few hours as a favour and are starting to resent it.
It wasn't like that though.. it was always me working here not as a favour or anything..
then take him for a beer and explain that you can't work for him under these conditions and if he doesn't meet you half way then you will go.
I think that's the most reasonable approach...
It makes me so sad sometimes
You'd actually more likely be considered employed by the "powers that be" if they investigated you (your paying less NIC by being self employed see) but theres a few "tests" that they'll apply to check your employment status. I'm not sure where you'd stand trying to find out and get it changed... But check. It might leave you better off. Also, if the business is failing, that shouldn't make you feel guity about being paid, your still doing a job, your not the reason its failing so don't feel guilty!
You're not self-employed if you're not the owner, surely? You're just...employed.
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