Capitalism and Immigration

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Thuthebough
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Capitalism works only in a growing economy, as it is based on debt created money, and the only way to repay debt is through economic growth because this creates more money which can be borrowed and then repaid etc.

European countries like the UK France and Germany have capitalist economies, and native populations that have a catastrophically low fertility rate. For example, the birth rate of ethnically English people, descended from the indigenous peoples who have inhabited England for thousands of years, is 0.9.

This means that every year, the indigenous English population decreases because a birth rate of around 2.1 is needed in order for it to remain at the same number of people as it is today. And in a country like England, and other countries with a low birth rate, like Germany, and Sweden, capitalism will begin to fail because fewer people means less consumption, and therefore, less profits for global corporations, and therefore, less money the liberal elite will have.

The liberal elite, like politicians i.e. Angela Merkel, understand this impending crises, and as a solution to the problem, have starting importing people into Europe from less socially developed countries with incompatible cultures, in order to ensure that capitalism can continue to deliver economic growth, because the idea is that they will replace the aging native populations of Europe when they soon retire, and eventually die.

However, my argument is that such people come from incompatible cultures, have no intention of working in Europe, assimilating themselves into European cultures, and instead seek to colonise Europe, destroy local cultures, and are a drain on resources, and of the few who do work, they work for less than the minimum wage,
which drives down local wages, and erodes the middle class.

Such people benefit only the global liberal elite i.e. the Banks, rather than the native indigenous populations who have a multicultural experiment undemocratically afflicted upon them, which is fast becoming a complete replacement of national identities, all in the name of global capitalism.
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I can't tell whether you're somewhat for or against it. You're saying that immigration is a necessary force, in a sense, to keep countries growing, yet you also dislike the social implications. I'm not beefing, just curious about your full stand point.
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No it doesn't, Capitalism never endorsed debt slavery and multiculturalism is Socialist Tyranny. Your brainwashed.
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(Original post by Thuthebough)
European countries like the UK France and Germany have capitalist economies, and native populations that have a catastrophically low fertility rate. For example, the birth rate of ethnically English people, descended from the indigenous peoples who have inhabited England for thousands of years, is 0.9.
May I ask, is it a racial issue or a cultural issue for you?

My own view is that I don't care what race someone is; Afro-Caribbean, Chinese, Arabian, as long as they integrate and absorb the dominant culture. And over time this does happen. Look at the children of Afro-Carribbean immigrants who came in the 1950s and 1960s; they are fully British. They are "one of us". That should be encouraged. I want the native culture to survive and thrive, I am not too concerned about race
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May I ask, is it a racial issue or a cultural issue for you?

My own view is that I don't care what race someone is; Afro-Caribbean, Chinese, Arabian, as long as they integrate and absorb the dominant culture. And over time this does happen. Look at the children of Afro-Carribbean immigrants who came in the 1950s and 1960s; they are fully British. They are "one of us". That should be encouraged. I want the native culture to survive and thrive, I am not too concerned about race
What about genealogy? Intermixing and such?
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No it doesn't, Capitalism never endorsed debt slavery and multiculturalism is Socialist Tyranny. Your brainwashed.
I agree. Capitalism doesn't rely on debt. It's a potential consequence of capitalism, yeah, but it's not a fundamental component of how it works.
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(Original post by Harold Godwinson)
What about genealogy? Intermixing and such?
As something of a mongrel myself, I can't see the problem. I'm a mix of Scots, Irish, English and Jewish; I don't think the mere fact of being born somehow undermines my own connection to my family on both sides or lessens my feeling of connection both to my predominant Anglo-Celtic roots and my minority Jewish roots.

In any case, mixing is genetically positive. For example, when you breed dogs as pure breeds, over the years they become completely debilitated by various genetic diseases. The longer you continue the pure breeding, the worse it gets. By contrast, when you breed two dogs from completely different breeds you get "hybrid vigour"; the dog is stronger for its mix of genes. That stands for humans too
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