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Clapham Junction (C4)
This drama is a snapshot of the mixed experiences of several gay men whose lives interconnect over 36 hours in London. From a civil partnership ceremony to a dinner party, five separate stories are woven into the fabric of modern day London from school and work, to bars and clubs in one hot summer in the capital. The programme is part of Channel 4's '40 years on' season.
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watching it now
time to preapre pasta whilst commercials are on. in a bit. winks
Ooh I really enjoyed it, if 'enjoyed' is the right term for a programme of that sort.
I expected it to be quite unfamiliar to me but I do think I've shared some experiences with the men depicted on there.
However I don't think it really worked as a two hour one off, I didn't really understand what was really happening by the end of it. The smashed fiddle doesn't bode to well though.
What did everyone else think?
I expected it to be quite unfamiliar to me but I do think I've shared some experiences with the men depicted on there.
However I don't think it really worked as a two hour one off, I didn't really understand what was really happening by the end of it. The smashed fiddle doesn't bode to well though.
What did everyone else think?
I thought it was amazing. it made a huge impact on me, ecspecially by the end. the sex was quite uncomfortable as it didn't look very orchestrated or real :/ but the death of alfie was so sad 
i thought the whole programme was really good, it portrayed all the major characters very well and it achieved it's goal, with me anyway, which was to get an impact. anyne else agree? x
i thought the whole programme was really good, it portrayed all the major characters very well and it achieved it's goal, with me anyway, which was to get an impact. anyne else agree? xMetropolitan
I don't understand how this programme was meant to celebrate the legalisation of homosexuality when the characters were depicted as perverted, drug abusing and promiscuous. There are still lots of people who hold these stereotypes about gay people.
I think they were trying to be 'truthful' in a sense. Although, quite a few of their portrayal of gays were quite stereotypical.
Any intelligent being would however recognise that promiscuity, drug abuse and etc exist equally among heterosexuals as well.
Breaktongue, I agree it did have a huge impact.
And as for the question of reinforcing stereotypes, I think a far bigger stereotype would have a been a tight-trousered, limp-wristed Clampham version of Daffyd Thomas with a large gold hoop ear ring would have been a bigger stereotype.
The things that appeared on the show are all things which happen in real life, just look at George Michael.
The overall message is that you may disagree with all things depicted as 'gay activities' in the show, but its no reason to savagely attack them
I think the blonde woman at the dinner party was meant to be sort of the 'voice' of the audience.
And as for the question of reinforcing stereotypes, I think a far bigger stereotype would have a been a tight-trousered, limp-wristed Clampham version of Daffyd Thomas with a large gold hoop ear ring would have been a bigger stereotype.
The things that appeared on the show are all things which happen in real life, just look at George Michael.
The overall message is that you may disagree with all things depicted as 'gay activities' in the show, but its no reason to savagely attack them
I think the blonde woman at the dinner party was meant to be sort of the 'voice' of the audience.
squirky
The overall message is that you may disagree with all things depicted as 'gay activities' in the show, but its no reason to savagely attack them.
The overall message is that you may disagree with all things depicted as 'gay activities' in the show, but its no reason to savagely attack them.
I think the producers along with most sensible people would seek more than that. What about that silly homophobic woman at the dinner party? 'We accept you now, cant you act like normal people' and 'they rub it in your face'. These sort of views are equally condemnable.
I think the good thing about the show was that it showed homopobia to be a cross-class expression of bigotry, rather than merely a working-class thing.
Ugggh, it just gave such a bad impression, whether it's true or not, I can't see how such stereotypes should have been so strongly portrayed.
Gay people = sleep around
Gay people = love their drugs
Gay people = unfaithful
Gay people = more likely to be looking for casual sex in a park
Gay people = More likely to knock on a random man's door and come on to him.
Gay people = sleep around
Gay people = love their drugs
Gay people = unfaithful
Gay people = more likely to be looking for casual sex in a park
Gay people = More likely to knock on a random man's door and come on to him.
dd1989
Ugggh, it just gave such a bad impression, whether it's true or not, I can't see how such stereotypes should have been so strongly portrayed.
Gay people = sleep around
Gay people = love their drugs
Gay people = unfaithful
Gay people = more likely to be looking for casual sex in a park
Gay people = More likely to knock on a random man's door and come on to him.
Gay people = sleep around
Gay people = love their drugs
Gay people = unfaithful
Gay people = more likely to be looking for casual sex in a park
Gay people = More likely to knock on a random man's door and come on to him.
I agree, it seemed to give off the wrong impression about gays. If the programme was supposed to be portraying how gays play a role in modern society and how they are treated, then it hasn't considered gays today. I know many gays that dont go around dogging in parks and doing coke!
dd1989
Ugggh, it just gave such a bad impression, whether it's true or not, I can't see how such stereotypes should have been so strongly portrayed.
Gay people = sleep around
Gay people = love their drugs
Gay people = unfaithful
Gay people = more likely to be looking for casual sex in a park
Gay people = More likely to knock on a random man's door and come on to him.
Gay people = sleep around
Gay people = love their drugs
Gay people = unfaithful
Gay people = more likely to be looking for casual sex in a park
Gay people = More likely to knock on a random man's door and come on to him.
^^^ exactly.
i have to ask.. the postman guy, what was he? someone who went around pretending to be gay so he could beat them up? what were his reasons for this??
and the guy in the toilet.. was he raped by the 'butch' guy, or did he want to have sex with him? i presume he was waiting for the other guy, but he buggered off when the other people went in the toilet.
and the black kid... WHAT THE **** DID HE EVEN HAVE TO DO WITH THE STORY? we were never even told he was gay...
4od will be your hero!
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and the black kid... WHAT THE **** DID HE EVEN HAVE TO DO WITH THE STORY? we were never even told he was gay...
I know! At first I thought they just shoved his storyline in so they could have the 'poignant' image of the broken fiddle at the end; now I reckon it was just a half-baked attempt to get a 'homophobic bullying of gay teens' storyline in, even though it didn't really connect with the rest of the story.
I didn't even plan to watch this, but I'm glad I did
i agree. what relevance did that violin playing bugger have to do with the plot, i think they saw an opportunity to mystify the audience, but it didn't work really :/
the ending was just so abrupt and left too many things un-answered. like for instance; 14 year old boy who had sex, what happened there, was that guy a kiddy fiddler? what about the gay marriage, did that gay doctor just forget about his husband lying? i'm glad i watched it, but i think two hours just wasn't enough. x
the ending was just so abrupt and left too many things un-answered. like for instance; 14 year old boy who had sex, what happened there, was that guy a kiddy fiddler? what about the gay marriage, did that gay doctor just forget about his husband lying? i'm glad i watched it, but i think two hours just wasn't enough. x
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