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All races equally smart?
This is likely to sound controversial to a lot of people, so I want to just state at the outset that I have no intention to offend anyone, just a desire to get an answer to this question:
If it is commonly accepted that different races are genetically endowed with various physical advantages (skin pigmentation against sun damage, varying degrees of athleticism, levels of lactose tolerance/intolerance) then why is it such a taboo to propose that, as a result of evolution among isolated groups, cerebral capacities might vary from race to race too? In other words, is it not possible that some races have just developed more "intelligence" than others (whatever the ranking may be)?
I know little about the evolutionary development and biology of the human brain, so again, please don't interpret this as a racist post. I'd just like someone to shed light on the matter (though please no "God created all humans equal" type arguments).
If it is commonly accepted that different races are genetically endowed with various physical advantages (skin pigmentation against sun damage, varying degrees of athleticism, levels of lactose tolerance/intolerance) then why is it such a taboo to propose that, as a result of evolution among isolated groups, cerebral capacities might vary from race to race too? In other words, is it not possible that some races have just developed more "intelligence" than others (whatever the ranking may be)?
I know little about the evolutionary development and biology of the human brain, so again, please don't interpret this as a racist post. I'd just like someone to shed light on the matter (though please no "God created all humans equal" type arguments).
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Cage
Of course all races are equally intelligent for crying out loud. There is absolutely no evidence to the contary. Such theories such remained confined to the 19th Century.
Are you serious, do you really think this is a logical answer?
First of all, lack of evidence of p does not make p false. Secondly, you use a pretty much classical ad hominem attack, saying that anyone who believes that races have different levels of intellegence is confined to the 19th century. Come on, at least make your point with a bit of evidence, or a logical argument...
Cage
It doesn't need evidence or an argument, because the only alternative argument (ie that all races are not equally intelligent) is the one that is illogical and bigoted.
Why? Of course it seems offensive to think that there is anything but racial equality, but I was hoping for a scientific argument of why this should or should not be. I suppose the problem is that anyone who wanted to sincerely investigate the issue would be immediately shut down by poltical correctness.
Are you actually ****ing retarded? You've done it again - no arguments at all, just that anyone who disagrees with you must be illogical or bigoted.
Can you answer this question: do you believe that the following things do have some racial component to them: skin pigmentation against sun damage, varying degrees of athleticism, levels of lactose tolerance/intolerance? And if you do, why are you so certain that the average levels of intelligence are exactly the same among races? Can you try to answer without calling me bigoted, illogical (lol), racist, depraved, crazy, etc etc and actually try and make a real, substantive point?
Can you answer this question: do you believe that the following things do have some racial component to them: skin pigmentation against sun damage, varying degrees of athleticism, levels of lactose tolerance/intolerance? And if you do, why are you so certain that the average levels of intelligence are exactly the same among races? Can you try to answer without calling me bigoted, illogical (lol), racist, depraved, crazy, etc etc and actually try and make a real, substantive point?
No, all races aren't equally smart, and there's nothing bigoted or racist about saying that.
Cage
Of course all races are equally intelligent for crying out loud. There is absolutely no evidence to the contary. Such theories such remained confined to the 19th Century.
Quit with your mindless, knee-jerk, politically-correct bull****. I think you'll find numerous studies have suggested differences in mental capabilities, between races. Tell me: did you actually put any thought, whatsoever, into your reply, or did you simply explode in flames of political-correctness-induced-anger, the moment someone had the 'audacity' to say anything even remotely controversial?
Of course, such people as you have no issue, whatsoever, with those who claim that blacks, for example, are naturally more athletic, than are non-blacks; if something positive is implied, about a minority, so much the better, after all. Apparently, it's quite fathomable that non-whites may differ in ways positive to whites, but not in non-positive ways.
Such replies are typical of those who'd rather subscribe to their copies of 'PC Moron's Weekly', than actually think for themselves.
DrunkHamster
Are you actually ****ing retarded? You've done it again - no arguments at all, just that anyone who disagrees with you must be illogical or bigoted.
You'll notice such a pattern, with members of the 'PC Brigade'; they are able not to offer anything in the way of logical arguments, whatsoever, instead resulting to petty insults and outbursts.
Bless 'em..........
KwungSun
This is likely to sound controversial to a lot of people, so I want to just state at the outset that I have no intention to offend anyone, just a desire to get an answer to this question:
If it is commonly accepted that different races are genetically endowed with various physical advantages (skin pigmentation against sun damage, varying degrees of athleticism, levels of lactose tolerance/intolerance) then why is it such a taboo to propose that, as a result of evolution among isolated groups, cerebral capacities might vary from race to race too? In other words, is it not possible that some races have just developed more "intelligence" than others (whatever the ranking may be)?
If it is commonly accepted that different races are genetically endowed with various physical advantages (skin pigmentation against sun damage, varying degrees of athleticism, levels of lactose tolerance/intolerance) then why is it such a taboo to propose that, as a result of evolution among isolated groups, cerebral capacities might vary from race to race too? In other words, is it not possible that some races have just developed more "intelligence" than others (whatever the ranking may be)?
What's "intelligence", that you had to put it in quotes?
I know little about the evolutionary development and biology of the human brain, so again, please don't interpret this as a racist post. I'd just like someone to shed light on the matter (though please no "God created all humans equal" type arguments).
How are you defining race? And please don't say "Black, white and yellow..."
Gilliwoo
Oh please, not this IQ nonsense again.
I think you'll find that I.Q. is a good indicator of academic and career success, amongst other things; to label it 'I.Q. nonsense' is to undermime its effectiveness as a measure of ability.
Well every race has smart and thick people.
Of course if you somehow measured the avg intelligence of every race one of them will be more smart than the others - but the odds of that happening are obviously much higher than everyone being equally smart.
There are probably many reasons for this.
Of course if you somehow measured the avg intelligence of every race one of them will be more smart than the others - but the odds of that happening are obviously much higher than everyone being equally smart.
There are probably many reasons for this.
dyslexic_banana
I think you'll find that I.Q. is a good indicator of academic and career success, amongst other things; to label it 'I.Q. nonsense' is to undermime its effectiveness as a measure of ability.
Most people who do well in IQ tests are likely to be intelligent. But not all intelligent people will do well in IQ tests, is what I'm getting at. It's an indicator of intelligence, but is not synonymous with it. It's a fickle and blunt measure of intelligence which is affected by so many variables that I wouldn't really put much faith in them.
dyslexic_banana
And many that question the results of these "numerous studies".
Of course, such people as you have no issue, whatsoever, with those who claim that blacks, for example, are naturally more athletic, than are non-blacks
Is this in fact so?
I am guessing this is pretty much what most people will have already said but no i do not think race has anything to do with how intelligent you are.
Intelligence is dependent upon the individuals brain and how they use it, not the colour of their skin/ origin.
Intelligence is dependent upon the individuals brain and how they use it, not the colour of their skin/ origin.
dyslexic_banana
Quit with your mindless, knee-jerk, politically-correct bull****. I think you'll find numerous studies have suggested differences in mental capabilities, between races. Tell me: did you actually put any thought, whatsoever, into your reply, or did you simply explode in flames of political-correctness-induced-anger, the moment someone had the 'audacity' to say anything even remotely controversial?
It isn't a question of controversy. It's a question of racism. I don't suggest for a minute that the OP is racist, he merely raised the question, but the question is one to which there is only one correct answer. There is not a shred of scientific evidence to suggest that one's race defines one's intelligence, and even if this were the case, who would care, unless they wanted to use such information to suggest racial superiority? And I think all sensible people agree that believing one's own race to be superior is a dangerous and delusional thing to do. To promote such views is actually illegal.
Of course, such people as you have no issue, whatsoever, with those who claim that blacks, for example, are naturally more athletic, than are non-blacks; if something positive is implied, about a minority, so much the better, after all. Apparently, it's quite fathomable that non-whites may differ in ways positive to whites, but not in non-positive ways.
Such replies are typical of those who'd rather subscribe to their copies of 'PC Moron's Weekly', than actually think for themselves.
I notice that YOU are the one who has introduced the question of white supremacy. The question was a generic one about race, not about white supremacy or inferiority.
Firstly, what grounds of academia is this profound 'intelligence' based on? I have yet to hear of research insinuating such. Though in the case of such experimentation being conducted it should be recognised that such evident results may be a direct result of varying correlations of education stemming from each individual racial community. I do feel that such nonsensical research is a waste of time, merely bolstering stereotype.
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