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    (Original post by Llamas)
    The BBC is arguably one of the most fair and unbias sources of news on the planet. However, objectivity can only go so far. The BBC also follows a social agenda as prescribed to it by the vast majority of the British people. The BNP's views are contrary to British sentiment and so the BBC does cast the BNP in a bad light. How far do you think objectivity should go benm? Should the BBC be neutral about paedophilia and terrorism as well as dangerous, extremist political parties?

    While I don't know the precise membership figures for the BNP, I think it's safe to assume that only a tiny minority of the BNP vote are actual members of the party. I think it's also safe to assume that most people who voted for the BNP have never even seen a copy of the party newspaper. The person from work was anti-immigration, but had no idea just how racist the BNP really was. (speaking of which.)

    Our only hope? I shed a tear for you benm.

    spoken like a true brainwashed victim, i shed not a tear for you, but i do pity your poor lost soul.
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    (Original post by AntiLiberal)
    spoken like a true brainwashed victim, i shed not a tear for you, but i do pity your poor lost soul.
    Oh good defence. I'm sure he'll lose plenty of sleep over that crushing retort.
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    (Original post by kildare)
    You ever read an orginial Nazi mainfesto?
    Thats exactly what I was tring to get across - thanks kildare.

    BTW - How many people who support the BNP see it as a far right party and/or a fascist party, also how many see themselves as fascist and/or far right (just out of interest)?
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    (Original post by benm)
    As you may or may not have heard, Barclay's bank have decided to close the British National Parties bank accounts. This has far-reaching consequences which were intended by the people who sought this action.
    I do not believe that the BNP should be banned. I do not want to see them getting loads of votes but they still have a right to makes their voices heard.

    When Bobby Sands got elected for Fermanagh and South Tyrone, Thatcher made the underhand move of preventing POWs standing for election.

    What happened when Bobby died? Owen Carron won the seat with an even bigger majority.

    Banning parties and groups of people always back-fires on you.

    Ban the BNP, start arresting and making martyrs out of them, and you'll see a massive wave of support for them across Britain. Leave them to put their point across as articulately as thugish bigots can do, and they'll stay on the side-lines not achieving very much.
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    (Original post by polthegael)
    Ban the BNP, start arresting and making martyrs out of them, and you'll see a massive wave of support for them across Britain. Leave them to put their point across as articulately as thugish bigots can do, and they'll stay on the side-lines not achieving very much.
    Very well said.
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    (Original post by Lord Gnostic)
    The liberal elite tolerate all except those who do not tolerate.
    If your views are not liberal then they try to use underhanded illegal means to silence you. Yaaaa democracy! maybe liberals and jews should join humanity for a change.
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    (Original post by Lord Gnostic)
    The liberal elite tolerate all except those who do not tolerate.
    Certainly. Those who do not tolerate have their own principles applied to them.
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    (Original post by Lord Gnostic)
    The liberal elite tolerate all except those who do not tolerate.
    And if you don't tolerate, what right do you have to expect others (such as the 'liberal elite', which of all the useless nebulous sweeping generalisations in this thread is one of the worst) to tolerate you? Absolutely none. Congratulations. You destroyed your own side of the argument.
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    The problem with antiLiberal and benm's comments is that they believe that the world is full of a conspiracy of some sort. It's quite clear that most on the extreme right wing as well as the extreme left wing think this way.. that everyone is out to get them, and also to blame one group (fascists tend to blame a minority group, communists tend to blame big business).
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    (Original post by socialist cook)
    The problem with antiLiberal and benm's comments is that they believe that the world is full of a conspiracy of some sort. It's quite clear that most on the extreme right wing as well as the extreme left wing think this way.. that everyone is out to get them, and also to blame one group (fascists tend to blame a minority group, communists tend to blame big business).
    Or blaming a minority group and saying that they secretly own big business. :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by EdGJ)
    And if you don't tolerate, what right do you have to expect others (such as the 'liberal elite', which of all the useless nebulous sweeping generalisations in this thread is one of the worst) to tolerate you? Absolutely none. Congratulations. You destroyed your own side of the argument.
    i like it when people take their own arguments apart themselves.
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    (Original post by socialist cook)
    The problem with antiLiberal and benm's comments is that they believe that the world is full of a conspiracy of some sort.
    Well....sort of, i think. But add to the fact that antiLiberal doesn't live in the real world and we are somewhere closer to the mark.
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    i think the title of this thread is slightly sensationalist nobody has made an interview to shut down the bnp barclays bank have merely decided to refuse them custom which is their right to do so
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    (Original post by tkfmbp)
    First up, think yourself lucky that Britain has possibly the finest national broadcaster in the world, bespoke for being independent and straight down the line. Many countries around the world would kill to have such a broadcaster.
    Ever heard of the Hutton enquiry. The director was forced to resign from the BBC because their reporting was so bad.

    (Original post by tkfmbp)
    Most people in the UK are repulsed by the views on the BNP (I'm glad to see), and, although this is really another issue, they have a duty of care to represent the views of the nation as a national broadcaster.
    For most people to be repulsed by the BNP would require more than 50% of the population to vote against them to purposely prevent them being elected. Less than this amount even bother to vote.
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    (Original post by EdGJ)
    And if you don't tolerate, what right do you have to expect others (such as the 'liberal elite', which of all the useless nebulous sweeping generalisations in this thread is one of the worst) to tolerate you? Absolutely none. Congratulations. You destroyed your own side of the argument.
    Don't tolerate what? Please give examples of when and how we have exercised this intolerance.
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    (Original post by Llamas)
    The BBC is arguably one of the most fair and unbias sources of news on the planet.
    http://www.the-hutton-inquiry.org.uk/index.htm

    (Original post by Llamas)
    However, objectivity can only go so far. The BBC also follows a social agenda as prescribed to it by the vast majority of the British people. The BNP's views are contrary to British sentiment and so the BBC does cast the BNP in a bad light. How far do you think objectivity should go benm? Should the BBC be neutral about paedophilia and terrorism as well as dangerous, extremist political parties?
    Peadophilia is illegal. Terrorism is illegal. Contesting elections with manifestos that the government disaproves of is not illegal, yet.

    (Original post by Llamas)
    Our only hope? I shed a tear for you benm.
    Yeh yeh, try using the forwards slash.

    Answer me this Llamas, why does the BNP consistently score a higher vote in areas with large ethnic minority populations, places where people have experience of 'diversity' and 'multi-culturism', places where false propaganda and scaremongering about ethnic minorities would become redundant
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    have you seen what the rest of the broadcasters of the world are like? well done the BBC got it wrong on a single issue on a single show, when was the last time before this that you said that?
    (Original post by benm)
    Answer me this Llamas, why does the BNP consistently score a higher vote in areas with large ethnic minority populations, places where people have experience of 'diversity' and 'multi-culturism', places where false propaganda and scaremongering about ethnic minorities would become redundant
    that be probably be done to racism
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    (Original post by benm)
    Answer me this Llamas, why does the BNP consistently score a higher vote in areas with large ethnic minority populations, places where people have experience of 'diversity' and 'multi-culturism', places where false propaganda and scaremongering about ethnic minorities would become redundant
    Because these are the poorer areas and it tends to be the poor people who look for something/someone to blame on their hardships, unfortunelty they pick on the "outsiders", this leads to racism, which leads to support for the BNP which effecitively bottles down to race.
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    (Original post by claire1985)
    I think they were completely right to ban them. Barclays have the right, and the negative publicity would be huge. I don't think they should be banned as a party, but they certainly need to be counteracted. The amount of people who think they have the right idea is astonishing, and quite disgusting.
    Damn right, who do these *******s think they are holding views that you disagree with, fascists!

    (Original post by claire1985)
    I think here education can be used to make people ridicule them :-)
    Yeh, perhaps propaganda, err I mean 'education' ( ) should be used to make people ridicule them, or perhaps we could make people ridicule them at gun point, and shoot them if they refuse?
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    (Original post by benm)
    Damn right, who do these *******s think they are holding views that you disagree with, fascists!



    Yeh, perhaps propaganda, err I mean 'education' ( ) should be used to make people ridicule them, or perhaps we could make people ridicule them at gun point, and shoot them if they refuse?
    With a small amount of education you can run through their "policies" and see how although they seem nice and fairytale are actually very badly though out, and are totally impractical.
 
 
 
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