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Caius college

Sorry to jump in on this forum with my first post - it's getting to crunch time with picking my college (going for a choral scholarship).
I'm keen on the idea of going to Gonville and Caius', but am just slightly concerned by what I read in The Times Good University Guide:
The college has something of a Home Counties or public school reputation especially for its 'It' girls, society high-fliers.
Being a male from a state school in Yorkshire, am I likely to find it hard to fit in? Do people at the college tend to lead very lavish lifestyles?

Thanks for any advice.
Reply 1
AlRP
Sorry to jump in on this forum with my first post - it's getting to crunch time with picking my college (going for a choral scholarship).
I'm keen on the idea of going to Gonville and Caius', but am just slightly concerned by what I read in The Times Good University Guide:
The college has something of a Home Counties or public school reputation especially for its 'It' girls, society high-fliers.
Being a male from a state school in Yorkshire, am I likely to find it hard to fit in? Do people at the college tend to lead very lavish lifestyles?

Thanks for any advice.

State school you say? Wouldn't you like to come to Sidney? Very nice. ( Or King's... if you want to be anonymous ).
Reply 2
AlRP
Sorry to jump in on this forum with my first post - it's getting to crunch time with picking my college (going for a choral scholarship).
I'm keen on the idea of going to Gonville and Caius', but am just slightly concerned by what I read in The Times Good University Guide:
The college has something of a Home Counties or public school reputation especially for its 'It' girls, society high-fliers.
Being a male from a state school in Yorkshire, am I likely to find it hard to fit in? Do people at the college tend to lead very lavish lifestyles?

Thanks for any advice.


KHL is already at caius...he'll be able to answer your questions. What subject are you applying for?

G
Reply 3
AlRP
Sorry to jump in on this forum with my first post - it's getting to crunch time with picking my college (going for a choral scholarship).
I'm keen on the idea of going to Gonville and Caius', but am just slightly concerned by what I read in The Times Good University Guide:
The college has something of a Home Counties or public school reputation especially for its 'It' girls, society high-fliers.
Being a male from a state school in Yorkshire, am I likely to find it hard to fit in? Do people at the college tend to lead very lavish lifestyles?

Thanks for any advice.

Caius is one of the big colleges; it's probably fair to say it's one of the 'Big Three' I guess - Trinity, John's and Caius - to which most public schools tend to send their pupils. So yes it does have a bit of a reputation for a large number of public school people, but an old friend of mine is there and having a great time; he went to a state school and didn't seem to find it hard to fit in at all. I doubt people will be leading hugely lavish lifestyles. If they do, don't let it put you off socialising with them or anything - just let them buy the drinks, eh :wink: Caius is pretty massive anyway so there'll be plenty of state schoolers too, but to be honest I've found your school really doesn't come into it. I guess you can tell the Etonians/Harrovians etc cos they talk posh, like, but nobody asks and to be honest I don't think anybody cares. Unless you're a bit sad... :tongue:

Caius is lovely, anyway! :smile:
Reply 4
although slightly outdated you may also find this interesting:
http://www.cusu.cam.ac.uk/publications/altpro/colleges/caius.html
Reply 5
AlRP
Sorry to jump in on this forum with my first post - it's getting to crunch time with picking my college (going for a choral scholarship).
I'm keen on the idea of going to Gonville and Caius', but am just slightly concerned by what I read in The Times Good University Guide:
The college has something of a Home Counties or public school reputation especially for its 'It' girls, society high-fliers.
Being a male from a state school in Yorkshire, am I likely to find it hard to fit in? Do people at the college tend to lead very lavish lifestyles?

Thanks for any advice.

Caius is big enough that you should be able to meet plenty of people who you can identify with. You may even find - as I rather suprisingly have (considering that I am a Canadian raised in Africa) - that many of your friends are people who went to posh public schools. Remember that many of the people who statistically look like public school boys have very different backgrounds - a friend of mine here (Trinity) was at Eton, but on a very significant scholarship, and therefore is not 'Rah', nor is he particularly weatlhy, he's just very bright. The vast majority of students on scholarships to the top public schools go oxbridge, and they are often anything but posh or rich.

I'd say if you like the look of Caius, go for it. The one person I've met from there was from an Irish state school and seemed to love the place and fit in really well.
Reply 6
AlRP
Sorry to jump in on this forum with my first post - it's getting to crunch time with picking my college (going for a choral scholarship).
I'm keen on the idea of going to Gonville and Caius', but am just slightly concerned by what I read in The Times Good University Guide:
The college has something of a Home Counties or public school reputation especially for its 'It' girls, society high-fliers.
Being a male from a state school in Yorkshire, am I likely to find it hard to fit in? Do people at the college tend to lead very lavish lifestyles?

Thanks for any advice.



great college, wouldn't go anywhere else. people are really nice, nobody really bothers whether you were from a state or a public school - to be honest, i think most of my friends are public school or internationals (never bothered asking, and they certainly don't behave like the stereotype), but nobody cares, we all mix and have fun.

there are some people that fit the description, but they generally tend to gravitate towards each other and leave the rest alone, so the rest of the 90% of the college can get on with socializing. 'sides, with 160 a year, or thereabouts, there's more than enough people for you to find your niche.

(also, in my limited personal experience, these people are also not really that bad, they are just more comfortable with others of their "own kind". if you bother to reach out and befriend them, most of them are actually really nice people, if somewhat odd-behaving and sounding :rolleyes: :biggrin: )

oh, and lavish lifestyles is up to you - but many of us are running near subsistence level, some slightly below and depending on the good graces of bank overdraft officials. so don't worry about being labelled a miser...

oh, and one of the more sociable and popular girls in my year happens to have been state schooled and proud of the fact, so, nope, state schooling doesn't matter. AT ALL. personality does (she's sociable, duh).

final thing - does your insertion of the word "male" have any significance? :confused:


P.S. - i'm a huge proponent of following your "gut feelings" when choosing colleges: if you like it, it's probably right for you. so go for it, and don't let other dissuade you.
KHL
great college, wouldn't go anywhere else. people are really nice, nobody really bothers whether you were from a state or a public school - to be honest, i think most of my friends are public school or internationals (never bothered asking, and they certainly don't behave like the stereotype), but nobody cares, we all mix and have fun.

there are some people that fit the description, but they generally tend to gravitate towards each other and leave the rest alone, so the rest of the 90% of the college can get on with socializing. 'sides, with 160 a year, or thereabouts, there's more than enough people for you to find your niche.

(also, in my limited personal experience, these people are also not really that bad, they are just more comfortable with others of their "own kind". if you bother to reach out and befriend them, most of them are actually really nice people, if somewhat odd-behaving and sounding :rolleyes: :biggrin: )

oh, and lavish lifestyles is up to you - but many of us are running near subsistence level, some slightly below and depending on the good graces of bank overdraft officials. so don't worry about being labelled a miser...

oh, and one of the more sociable and popular girls in my year happens to have been state schooled and proud of the fact, so, nope, state schooling doesn't matter. AT ALL. personality does (she's sociable, duh).

final thing - does your insertion of the word "male" have any significance? :confused:


P.S. - i'm a huge proponent of following your "gut feelings" when choosing colleges: if you like it, it's probably right for you. so go for it, and don't let other dissuade you.


Hmmm, i knew a few people there, and had some formals with some of the female drinking socs there. There are indeed a section of it girls large enough to be called a clique, but thats no different to any college really. AS for the poshness - well, the wankness of their formal hall (it is treated as a late hall, so people rock up in genes. Also, there is no silver service, food is whisked around...basically shite) belies the fact the caius is mutton attempting to dress like lamb. Badly.

Kings is frankly a pit of commies, people always whine about everything there, and are on strike about something every other year. I mean for gods sake, kings doesn't even have formal halls. I think you would be frankly stupid to ever go there (unless you are in the choir) because you would miss out on some of the fundemental differences that make cambridge so special and different to the people there. Remember that you can choose a college resembeling another uni, but it won't change the actual town amenities.
J
PS - When term starts everyone make sure you go to the new bowling alley - it's awesome (at the crossroads near homerton)
Reply 8
I thought you went to Caius :confused:

And if the bowling place is near Homerton, you'd be just as well going to London :biggrin: Jk
Reply 9
Acaila
I thought you went to Caius :confused:

And if the bowling place is near Homerton, you'd be just as well going to London :biggrin: Jk


Nah - foolfarian was at Corpus.

Some of my friends made a trip to the bowling alley, only to find it was closed. They weren't best pleased. I might make it down there when I get back though, nothing better to do in my first week apart from a couple of PfP visits (J, is PfP B any better than the first?)
Reply 10
Cheers for all the advice everyone - I'm feeling more confident about it now.
I'm applying for history btw - there seems to be a good reputation for it.
Good point about 'male' KHl - i don't really know why i put it in; suppose I was just showing how I felt completely opposite to the description of home-counties, public school 'it' girls.
Reply 11
Sorry foolfarian

Wouldn't you like to be an "It" boy then AIRP? :biggrin: Besides there are also societies and your course for socialising :smile:
Acaila
Sorry foolfarian

Wouldn't you like to be an "It" boy then AIRP? :biggrin: Besides there are also societies and your course for socialising :smile:


You know you're obsessed with Cambridge once you start giving advice to potential applicants before you've even applied yourself!
Helenia
Nah - foolfarian was at Corpus.

Some of my friends made a trip to the bowling alley, only to find it was closed. They weren't best pleased. I might make it down there when I get back though, nothing better to do in my first week apart from a couple of PfP visits (J, is PfP B any better than the first?)

Lets face it, pfp is a wank concept. Some unis do the whole integrated clinical experience, whereas cambridge does this stupid token effort which isn't at all useful, and is totally crap. And no, it doesn't get better. PfPB is nearly on par with PfpA (tho about 10x more depressing), pfpC is as bad (depending on what you choose) and pfpD is the only half useful one, and can be good (in my case where i had a lovely 30 year old teacher) or wank (in the case of people who had 16 year old scrubber).
ne'er mind ey
J
Reply 14
magicalsausage
You know you're obsessed with Cambridge once you start giving advice to potential applicants before you've even applied yourself!


Believe me I've been thinking that for a while :wink:
Reply 15
foolfarian
Lets face it, pfp is a wank concept. Some unis do the whole integrated clinical experience, whereas cambridge does this stupid token effort which isn't at all useful, and is totally crap. And no, it doesn't get better. PfPB is nearly on par with PfpA (tho about 10x more depressing), pfpC is as bad (depending on what you choose) and pfpD is the only half useful one, and can be good (in my case where i had a lovely 30 year old teacher) or wank (in the case of people who had 16 year old scrubber).
ne'er mind ey
J


I know; nearly everyone got more patient contact in their work experience before coming there than in those measly two GP visits. I had to go on my home visit on my own because they had to find me an extra slot thanks to missing the first with glandular fever, got to walk out on my own into the middle of the delightful council estates to find this old man's house. :eek: It's not that I didn't enjoy it, but 2 sessions over a whole year is hardly a life-changing experience. At least with the visits at the start of term I can get my essay written before Freshers' week (I hope) as I'll have nothing better to do, what with nobody being around.

What did you see for your B & C?
Helenia
I know; nearly everyone got more patient contact in their work experience before coming there than in those measly two GP visits. I had to go on my home visit on my own because they had to find me an extra slot thanks to missing the first with glandular fever, got to walk out on my own into the middle of the delightful council estates to find this old man's house. :eek: It's not that I didn't enjoy it, but 2 sessions over a whole year is hardly a life-changing experience. At least with the visits at the start of term I can get my essay written before Freshers' week (I hope) as I'll have nothing better to do, what with nobody being around.

What did you see for your B & C?

Had a crohns disease case and a bowel cancer case. latter was a really nice guy who had worked at sellafield...
For pfpC you have to sort it yourself - i worked in a chiropracters for a day
J
foolfarian
Lets face it, pfp is a wank concept. Some unis do the whole integrated clinical experience, whereas cambridge does this stupid token effort which isn't at all useful, and is totally crap. And no, it doesn't get better. PfPB is nearly on par with PfpA (tho about 10x more depressing), pfpC is as bad (depending on what you choose) and pfpD is the only half useful one, and can be good (in my case where i had a lovely 30 year old teacher) or wank (in the case of people who had 16 year old scrubber).
ne'er mind ey
J



Please.....'wank' is not to be used in these contexts.
Reply 18
MentallyIll
Please.....'wank' is not to be used in these contexts.


Nonsense; 'wank concept' is one of the best phrases I've heard this week.
Reply 19
Faboba
Nonsense; 'wank concept' is one of the best phrases I've heard this week.


And it's tragically true :frown: