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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3904271.stm

What about poor people living in expensive homes? Like my parents there house is worth £200k but they bought it for £15,000 in 1980, my parents can barely afford council tax as it is.
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(Original post by amazingtrade)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3904271.stm

What about poor people living in expensive homes? Like my parents there house is worth £200k but they bought it for £15,000 in 1980, my parents can barely afford council tax as it is.
what a stupid idea how the hell are people who've lived in the same house for a long time on fixed income (i.e pensioners) supposed to pay for that
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I agree that this could be dodgy - with the recent house price increases many people are living in houses that are worth a lot more than the owner's earning would suggest.

How would they accurately assess the value of a home? Surely a house is worth what someone is willing to pay for it? And house prices change quickly - a fall is constantly being predicted
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Its just barmy, my parents earn £21k between them, but according to labour they are rich. Yet £21k isn't even enough money to buy a house in Moss Side for first time buyers.

They are also some quite rich people living in cheap houses like my great aunty, she leaves in a house worth £100k in lincoinshire yet has about half a million in the bank. May parents have about -£500 in the bank.
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Doesn't seem fair in your case, however I think what the government is tring to do is to stop these people who just inherit an estate and then pay little tax as they don't work. Obviously they should look into cases like yours and review the tax.

It does seem as though Labour are taking on some Tory policies though which is worring.
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Why are Labour proposing this so close to an election? All tax rises are unpopular to the masses.
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I find this quite outrageous, the more my family pays, the less we get back.
According to the Sunday Telegraph, council tax bills for the most valuable properties - worth more than £620,000 at current prices - could rise from their current level of £2,334 a year to £6,224 in three years.
There is absolutely no way I would pay a sum like that. Oh, well we're moving to France to get away from the ridiculously high levels of tax in this country so they've lost any money that would have got from my family.
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Why are Labour proposing this so close to an election? All tax rises are unpopular to the masses.
Yes, but sometimes a "take from the rich, give to the poor" policy encourages the people benificial to this scheme jump up and vote.
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Another thing is my dad runs a business he needs his modest (N reg escort) for work. The new car tax rules will cost my dad an extra £200 a year if they come to place. His suppliers will put their prices up, my dad will have to put his prices up and loose customers.

This government are trying to destroy the country with these new policies it seems.
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Yes, but sometimes a "take from the rich, give to the poor" policy encourages the people benificial to this scheme jump up and vote.
However labour have already annoyed the middle classes enough, this policy will annoy them further and they will loose even more seats by next election.

Its hobsons choice for me, I don't want labour to win, I don;t want Micheal Howard to be PM.

My parents will be hit very hard with these new policies if they are implemented anyway.

I am all for tax the poor and give to the rich but you can never really implement fairly.
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Its hobsons choice for me, I don't want labour to win, I don;t want Micheal Howard to be PM.

My parents will be hit very hard with these new policies if they are implemented anyway.

I am all for tax the poor and give to the rich but you can never really implement fairly.
Same for me - it seems that there isn't a political party worth voting for any more now that our socialist party has been robbed from us.
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more money is needed to improve public services, transport et al. One way of doing this is through the housing market. But the system should be based on ability to pay - otherwise one gets to the ludicrous situation where a person may have to sell their house to pay council tax bills!! (for example if i were a poor student and bequethed a £3m mansion by my grandmother).

Vore lib dems. They have sensible solutions, but eitehr way, be prepared to pay more.
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fogot to mention, at least they're talking about fixing the price of a pint, if only they would do taht with petrol too.
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(Original post by amazingtrade)
I am all for tax the poor and give to the rich but you can never really implement fairly.
Was that the right way around?
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Its interesting when a story comes out that seems to suggest something is policy when it's just a recommendation (it is a bad recommendation if you ask me) by a report. This seems to happen all the time.

The BBC report seems to have been updated since yesterday so I don't know what they said to make people think it was a government policy.
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Was that the right way around?
Woops yes, I ment I like the idea of taxing the rich and giving the money to the poor.
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The Poll tax was actually one of the fairest taxes to be introduced.
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