Oh I will definitely be applying to more TCs than the number of firms I did Vac schemes with, it's just that given the choice I'd like to do both so I have a better idea of what I'm letting myself in for. Was that an open day that you had to apply online for?
I applied to the vac scheme online, was unsuccessful but they offered me an open day instead. I think you can apply to just an open day, but I suspect it's the same online form as the vac scheme and tc (CVmail, with covering letter)
It takes like four years after a non-law degree to train for a legal profession, right?
it is four years if you count the training contract; however, whilst doing your training contract, you will be paid a decent salary and be doing actual work in the firm for ongoing deals. in that sense, it's nothing like the training (in terms of cost and what you get up to) that you'd have at law school in the two years beforehand.
How many non-law students consider and end up doing Law? Law is a career I'm only now looking into, although I think I'll do a modern language degree, as I'm not confident that Law is for me and so wouldn't want to make a mistake. Being a solicitor kind of appeals to me. If I ended up doing that career, I'd be qualified at 26, right? Is that good?
that's mad! i haven't come across such a thing yet.
Im just about to start my second year of English, I plan to travel for a year after my degree also. That would mean I would start to my CPE/GDL in 2010. So when should I apply for my vac schemes and training contact? Will Law firms mind that im going traveling after my degree??
big firms dont mind: you can apply as if you're not going travelling and then ask for a deferral i think... though not sure if you can do that before the LPC or only before the TC
Wow, that is harsh, although I guess it doesn't lead directly to a job by any stretch of the imagination.
Great. Just.. great.
This basically means that students without wealthy parents to help them out are disadvantaged.
Maybe, I guess you'll just have to wait and see!
As far as I am aware none of the three banks have arrangements with GDL providers for Career Development Loans; I know College of Law have an arrangement with Natwest for the Professional Trainee Loan, but that's different to a CDL because it is completely unsubsidised and charges a commercial rate of interest. Whilst the GDL doesn't lead directly to a job, it clearly does lead to entry into a profession as it acts as the academic stage of qualifying as a solicitor or barrister. I just think the whole thing is incredibly unfair on poorer students who are unable to secure a training contract first time round, as well as people who want to do legal aid work or go to the bar.
To add my two cents, I began the GDL without a training contract. I have since managed to secure one, but there were many people on my course who have not done so. From my own experience, many people embark upon the GDL without really assessing their chances of gaining a TC and after a year either decide not to continue into the legal profession, or start the LPC, once again without any real sense of direction, only to end up an overqualified temp. By restricting the availability of loans, people who have failed to realise the competitiveness of the profession will not be lead astray by GDL providers who will let them on the course with CDD A-levels and a 2:2.
Additionally, I don't think this impacts the poorer students significantly: firstly, you can still get commercial loans. Whilst they're not great, the amount you can borrow with a CDL is capped (as far as I recall) so if you want a significant amount, you're going to have to get a commercial loan anyway. Secondly, if you get into a City firm whilst you're on your GDL, they will most likely pay your fees and living expenses, thereby enabling you to pay back the loan very quickly. Additionally, most firms pay for both GDL and LPC: if you don't get a TC in your final year, there is nothing that says that you have to go straight onto the GDL, and in fact, many people do take some time to work.