The BNP is not racist

While I would have no problem with that, I mean oddly in the context of a multi-cultural society. In my hometown there is a far greater cultural mix (and the big problem in the town is still violent white youths).

this thread has no logic anymore.

i think we can discern we need a more structured way of discussing this.

You realise if you stop calling the debate crap and do something to improve it, it will...... no longer be crap?

You really do seem to have beef with white kids don't you? Hey, I think black kids are violent. Am I racist now?

Iguessiwin, I still take offence, just because my 'suffering' is small compared to other people doesn't mean that I don't feel it, that's like saying because of that reason I am not allowed to be insulted by it? Well, I was.

I give up. I'm ugly, all races are equal, Cottonmouth is the ****ing hero of the forum and everyone is up his arse. The end. -.-;

Iguessiwin, I still take offence, just because my 'suffering' is small compared to other people doesn't mean that I don't feel it, that's like saying because of that reason I am not allowed to be insulted by it? Well, I was.

THANK YOU! I know I am ugly but, come on, if it's a place of such rationality, there is room for comments like that? I don't really think it's the place to be honest.

ok thats enough can everyone who doesnt have a stupid point leave this discussion its annoying now. have you ever heard of the word connotation???

beauty is in the eye of the beholder, being black isnt.

I've never called myself politically correct, EVER. That was you and your ilk.

Paki and nigger are both historically considered to be racist terminology, and thus cannot be compared to calling someone "ugly"- stop being silly now.

No, Cottonmouth, you're wrong, because both, those racist words, and being called ugly, are upsetting to the person involved, it's exactly the same, it upset me, the words said before are upsetting to people of those races.

Look; ugly people tend not to get **** put through their letterbox for being ugly, whereas black people (and other racial minorities) sometimes do. Calling someone ugly doesn't bring up associations with systemic racism- there weren't, for example, years of uglypartheid in South Africa. In the US, ugly people weren't segregated from the rest of of the population- they didn't have their own ugly bars and ugly drinking fountains and ugly sporting leagues. The KKK never lynched ugly people. There aren't websites and hate groups, like Uglibat 18, throughout the world preaching attractive supremacy and that ugly shouldn't breed with non-uglies. You don't get people like Nick Griffin campaigning for all idiots to be repatriated back to Uglitopia.

When you call someone ugly, you're insulting something their appearance. Call someone a racial epithet, and it goes a bit deeper than that. Calling someone a "****ing ugly bastard" doesn't carry anywhere near the same weight than calling someone a "****ing nigger", or a "****ing paki", purely because there isn't a history of people being treated as second-class citizens because they're ugly. Fortunately for some.

That's why. Although you really, really should have been able to figure this out for yourself.

Well, you always were, but that's beside the point.
I have no particular beef with white kids. I myself am one. But I am trying to show you that your idea that all of Britain's problems can be blamed on other races is a fallacy. The white race is historically the most violent of them all, but that doesn't seem to bother you. There is no logical reasoning behind your dislike of other races, and that is what makes you racist.

No Cottonmouth, I don't need an apology, I offered to agree to disagree I don't know how many times, no one listened, infact you all sat there insulting the **** out of me. Cheers a million.

Why do you think it's ok to generalise the white race and no others? If I said 'The Jewish race is historically the greediest of them all' would I be instantly called an anti-semite?