(Original post by Sabriel)
THANK YOU! I know I am ugly but, come on, if it's a place of such rationality, there is room for comments like that? I don't really think it's the place to be honest.
You don't look ugly, to me, but, yeah, the point is that it's amazing how supposedly moralistic some folk are, but only up to a certain point (i.e. as far as it's fashionable to be).
(Original post by IguessIwin)
ok thats enough can everyone who doesnt have a stupid point leave this discussion its annoying now. have you ever heard of the word connotation???
So, calling someone 'ugly' carries no connotation?
(Original post by Consie)
beauty is in the eye of the beholder, being black isnt.
Not of much relevance.
(Original post by cottonmouth)
I've never called myself politically correct, EVER. That was you and your ilk.
Paki and ****** are both historically considered to be racist terminology, and thus cannot be compared to calling someone "ugly"- stop being silly now.
Trust me, you are; almost sickeningly so, in fact. What's your point? Calling someone 'ugly' isn't racist? No ****, Sherlock. It
a form of discrimination, though.
(Original post by Sabriel)
No, Cottonmouth, you're wrong, because both, those racist words, and being called ugly, are upsetting to the person involved, it's exactly the same, it upset me, the words said before are upsetting to people of those races.
Exactly my point.
(Original post by Axiom)
Look; ugly people tend not to get **** put through their letterbox for being ugly, whereas black people (and other racial minorities) sometimes do. Calling someone ugly doesn't bring up associations with systemic racism- there weren't, for example, years of uglypartheid in South Africa. In the US, ugly people weren't segregated from the rest of of the population- they didn't have their own ugly bars and ugly drinking fountains and ugly sporting leagues. The KKK never lynched ugly people. There aren't websites and hate groups, like Uglibat 18, throughout the world preaching attractive supremacy and that ugly shouldn't breed with non-uglies. You don't get people like Nick Griffin campaigning for all idiots to be repatriated back to Uglitopia.
When you call someone ugly, you're insulting something their appearance. Call someone a racial epithet, and it goes a bit deeper than that. Calling someone a "****ing ugly *******" doesn't carry anywhere near the same weight than calling someone a "****ing ******", or a "****ing paki", purely because there isn't a history of people being treated as second-class citizens because they're ugly. Fortunately for some.
That's why. Although you really, really should have been able to figure this out for yourself.
Rubbish. So, yeah, a minority of blacks may have **** put through their letterbox; it's hardly the point, as they are the tiny minority of black people. What about black guys who are far more attractive to women, than are white guys? I've known girls who pretty much exclusively date black guys. Are they discriminated against? Or black people who are imitated, and seen as 'cool'? For every one racist, there are about 50 passionate 'PC Brigade' members, or people who actually regard black people in very high a regard. Ugly people are obviously discriminated against, in many walks of life; in the media, in terms of relationships, and so on. Hell, that's stating the obvious, but, if we're going to be pedantic (and the 'PC Brigade' most certainly are), that much is obvious.
I'd imagine that calling someone 'ugly' would be more hurtful than would calling someone 'Paki', or '******'; partly because it's so acceptable a form of discrimination.