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    (Original post by Consie)
    how easy is it to get pussy in the scouts?
    Dont know, but one of our scoutmasters liked rubbing everyone's buttocks using the flimsiest excuses possible. The adults in scouting are really sick people.
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    (Original post by acolyte)
    Dont know, but one of our scoutmasters liked rubbing everyone's buttocks using the flimsiest excuses possible. The adults in scouting are really sick people.
    Im greatly offended lol
    That is a bit of a generalisation and stereotype!
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    (Original post by Consie)
    how easy is it to get pussy in the scouts?
    If you go on international camp, probably fairly easy. Though possibly slightly illegal in a lot of cases as most of the girls will be under 16. But for some reason putting girls in a tent in a field with a load of scrawny slightly-unattractive boys turns them all totally rampant. I should know...

    As for the pervy leader thing, I think the vast majority of that is made up. I've NEVER seen anything remotely dodgy and I've been doing this a long time. And no, I don't harbour secret paedophilic desires myself.
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    [QUOTE=bigred]I hated Scouts but my mum made me go. Most of the stuff we were forced to learn was completely irrelevant, tying knots and putting up tents for example.
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    I wish I'd done that! Spent hours trying to put my tent up at T in the park as had never done it before... so I suppose they do teach something useful!
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    I went to cubs and scouts, but I left scouts when I was about 14 largely due to lack of confidence.
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    Well.. i was a beaver (there wasnt rainbows where i was at that age) then a brownie, guide and now im a young leader (with brownies)/ranger.
    So ive been part of scouting and guiding. I think its good, i know its not everyones cup of tea, but if you enjoy it then why not! We dont do all that much with brownies, but it we do teach them things that they dont necessarily get at school.
    But yeah i think its fun, and we get to go camping too
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    Baden-Powell knew what he was on about:

    On bees: They are quite a model community for they respect their Queen and kill their unemployed.
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    (Original post by xxsarahjwxx)
    Im greatly offended lol
    That is a bit of a generalisation and stereotype!
    very much so! ive not heard about any scout leaders like that (ok that doesnt mean it doesnt happen) but you cant say it about everyone!!
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    This thread sux...

    Default Is scouting still relevant today?
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    Today there are 28 million scout members, both male and female, in nearly every country in the world.
    So... erm... yes would be the answer
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    I miss guiding Funnily enough I hated camping but enjoyed lots of the other stuff, and things like first aiding have certainly been useful. Tbh I went to a particularly useless brownie pack and guide company that weren't that into the spirit of it all, but it was still fun and I'd like to get back into it one day when I have the time.
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    I think there is slight hypocricsy regarding scout peadophiles. When you play for like an under 19's team, despite it not being classed as peadophilia obviously, coahces love spanking their players. 'get in there and put some big hits in *spank*, go on son, put your body on the line'. Yet sports coaches are seen as like decent folk who are pretty upstanding - team players in it for something bigger than themselves. Even the referees do it when you get up from getting annhilated in a tackle or something, 'walk it off *spank*'.

    You see it in American Football more, where its like 'show some hustle! *spank*'


    I came to rugby fairly late on so wasn’t really accustomed to seeing the coach spank people. Everyone else never used to bat an eyelid. Must have been due to most of them going to all boys public schools :P
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    I'm an explorer and im off to Iceland tonight to celebrate the centenary of scouting. I feel that scouting definately still has a revelance today as there are things we do that I would never do on my own or with school. Like, learning to build a campfire and lighting it in the rain or going go karting.
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    I've been involved in scouting for 12 of my 18 years. When I tell people, they always take the piss out of me for it for at least a while. I always come back with the same thing:

    When was the last time you went to Texas for 3 weeks, twice?
    When was the last time you went to Holland?
    When was the last time you went to Switzerland?
    When was the last time you went white water rafting, mountain climbing, canoeing, or make your own raft?
    When was the last time you practiced shotgun and rifle shooting, or archery?
    When was the last time you learned how to kill and prepare your own food?
    When did you learn basic first aid?
    Learn useful things like knots and putting up tents? (you might think knots are useless but they can get you out of very sticky situations, and if putting up a tent is useless why do they do it on DofE? You'll also need it at festivals)
    When was the last time you put these skills into practice with regular competitions?

    I've done all this and much more through scouting, and I don't think I would have done any of it if I hadn't joined scouts.
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    Scouting, if and done properly, can be an excellent place for leisure as well as learning. Learning in life should not be confined to exams every other year, despite what the Government thinks.

    The problem with me when I scouted was that the good leaders left and I ended up going to a different troop and eventually all we did was games. I look back on that and think what if. I met up with some venture scouts near the great forest, but never persued it further. Thought of becoming a leader, only if I can be Colonel Hathi. An elephant never forgets. :cool:
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    I went to cubs and then scouts, but I had to leave when I was 16 (2 years later than I should have really!) as there were no local Explorer groups. I loved it, and really wish I had been able to carry on. I was the only girl in my scout group the whole time I was there, but it was brilliant because I was just treated like one of the boys. Through scouts I was introduced to so much that I wouldn't have otherwise done, like climbing, kayaking, abseiling, sailing, and obviously lots of camping! I've tried to keep many of these up, but opportunities are hard to find. I can't wait until I get to university and can start doing more climbing again!
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    I love climbing and that's due to Scouts/Explorers. I now want to become a climbing instructor so that's certainly something you wouldn't do if you werent in scouting!
    What gets me about it though is the politics of it. Unless you've ever been a leader, most scouts arent aware of it but the power struggle between leaders is ridiculous. You get power hungry people who just want to be in charge of everything and who work their way up the metaphorical career ladder so that they can boss more people around. They arent in scouting for the scouts, they are just in it for the glory and i hate it because it pushes people who are in it for genuine reasons away (like moi!). GRRRR! As you can tell im angry lol.
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    (Original post by All at once)
    Baden-Powell knew what he was on about:
    On bees: They are quite a model community for they respect their Queen and kill their unemployed.
    :rofl:

    I was a Rainbow, a Brownie and a Guide, but I gave up when I was 13 or so as I was in a crap unit with a depressed leader which meant we never did anything. Think I managed 1 badge in my three years as a Guide Shame, because I really enjoyed it and undoubtedly would have carried on if I'd had a more proactive leader. As well as the "woollier" skills of teamwork and communication (God I hate those words, they're such buzzwords), you actually learn useful things and you have a chance to indulge your interests too. Probably the only thing they could do to make it better is to perhaps make it more secular, as I don't know that there's really a suitable 'one size fits all' approach that would work in the current climate.
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    (Original post by acolyte)
    Dont know, but one of our scoutmasters liked rubbing everyone's buttocks using the flimsiest excuses possible. The adults in scouting are really sick people.
    As an adult scout leader, i find this sort of comment really offensive. You may have had a sick perv for a leader, but i know dozens of other adults in scouting (including some of my best friends) and not one who would do that sort of thing.

    I've been involved in scouting since the age of six (eek... thats nearly 15 years now ). Especiallyu since going to uni i've found skills learnt in scouts (like learning to get on with housemates (similar to patrol on scout camp), cooking, etc). I've also picked up a range of outdoor activity skills (kayaking, climbing, shooting), all hobbies which i enjoy, but which i wouldnt have picked up without scouts.

    It also teaches young people to have a sense of community, to show respect for other people, and to think of others as well as themselves. It gives kids something better to do than hang around on street corners and is a great way for them to make friends. Also since scouting became mixed i've seen several explorer scouts who have met their gfs/bfs through scouting, and i also know many couples that have developed through SSAGO (student scout and guide organisation).

    So yes, scouting IS still relevant today, and the current lack of any sense of community, the lack of respect for other people, and the kids hanging around vandalising the streets might never have got to this state if people had joined scouting and seen what they're missing out on, rather than sitting around laughing at those who are trying to improve themselves, and making disgusting allegations about the adults who are trying to encourage young people to make something of their lives.

    *rant ends here*
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    About the paedo comments. Although I myself am a scout leader and would never expect such behaviour from any of the scout leaders I know, you can never be too careful.

    I've travelled to Texas twice with my troop to visit an American troop with which we've built up a close relationship. The Scoutmaster there was loved by all the boys, he was strict but usually fair, married with grown up kids, a teacher and generally regarded as a pillar of the community. A year or so ago the police found a collection of child pornography in a hidden room in his basement after allegations from former members of his troop that he'd abused them on camp. This is particularly worrying because the child protection rules in the BSA (Boy Scouts of America) are much stricter than our own. They're not even allowed to use the same bathroom.
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    (Original post by grammar_king)
    About the paedo comments. Although I myself am a scout leader and would never expect such behaviour from any of the scout leaders I know, you can never be too careful.

    I've travelled to Texas twice with my troop to visit an American troop with which we've built up a close relationship. The Scoutmaster there was loved by all the boys, he was strict but usually fair, married with grown up kids, a teacher and generally regarded as a pillar of the community. A year or so ago the police found a collection of child pornography in a hidden room in his basement after allegations from former members of his troop that he'd abused them on camp. This is particularly worrying because the child protection rules in the BSA (Boy Scouts of America) are much stricter than our own. They're not even allowed to use the same bathroom.
    Unfortunately its the few incidents like this that make it into the news, and the general public associate it with everyone else in the movement and tar all scout leaders with the paedo brush

    We're always careful to avoid 1-on-1 contact with the kids, etc so hopefully could never get allegations against us - its just a case of being extra carefully
 
 
 
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