UN Peacekeeping Troops Watch

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With Peacekeeping missions at an all time high across the world, Syria feels that more must be done to protect the Peacekeeping troops that partake in these missions, as they are notoriously scarred from their participation. Syria feels that the policy with regards to engaging enemy combatants should be changed. It is unfeasable to only act when shot at, it has become an infamous weakness known to potential breakers of peace and leaves the troops very unprotected. We feel that the policy should be changed to allow troops to engage an enemy combatant when under an "imminent" threat to life. At the same time there should be full reports made by troops for all discharges of weapons and full accountability of all rounds distributed among troops. Were the rest of the UN to agree, we would continue with a resolution.
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Germany applauds Syria's compassion for the UN Peacekeeping forces. Though engaging in open combat should be avoided wherever possible, Germany agrees that when an imminent threat to life arises, combat may well become nessercery, and given the current climate in the Middle East, with six peacekeepers being targeted recently (thread here) in Lebanon, a change of policy may well be the best course of action.
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Liechtenstein is against your first point, but will be willing to support it if the conditions of it being upheld are sufficiently exacting. The second and third points will be wholeheartedly supported.
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The UK is against this - the Rules of Engagement are not blanket for all peacekeeping missions, but are written for individual missions, responding to the situation in the Forces' area of operations. To essentially 'legislate' within the UN to create blanket Rules of Engagement across all peacekeeping forces is not only foolish, but downright dangerous.
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India agrees wholeheartedly with the Syrian representative. We believe that it is necessary that UN peacekeeping troops have means of protecting themselves if under threat.
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Would the UK not agree that a 'blanket' resolution covering all UN co-ordinated peace keeping missions would be advisable, if individual Rules of Engagement were able to 'overwrite' the resolution?
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(Original post by Misunderstood Beauty)
Would the UK not agree that a 'blanket' resolution covering all UN co-ordinated peace keeping missions would be advisable, if individual Rules of Engagement were able to 'overwrite' the resolution?
No, I would not. First off, what would be the point? Secondly, it would create an expectation to make that Resolution the default for Rules of Engagement. What is needed is a truly individual approach to each mission, which is what we have now.
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No, I would not. First off, what would be the point? Secondly, it would create an expectation to make that Resolution the default for Rules of Engagement. What is needed is a truly individual approach to each mission, which is what we have now.
Fair point. I doubt it would create an expectation to make the Resolution the default, though I have been persuaded, through yourself and further research, that it would be easier to assess each mission for its individual merits.
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Good stuff - glad to hear it. It's also a more in character response for Germany - the Germans don't like military operations, and would be unlikely to commit troops to peacekeeping operations in which there was a wider authorisation for the use of force (they may not even be constitutionally allowed to do so).
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(Thanks, I've never been Germany in an MUN before, relying on the internet and my GCSE )

Germany applauds the UK delegates alternative and will support it in this matter further.
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The RSA notes the UK government withdrew its troops from the colours of the UN in Bosnia and returned them to their own colours as they felt UK soldiers were dying because UN rules of engagement were too restrictive.

The RSA supports UN peacekeepers rights to defend themselves from all potential loss of life.
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That is irrelevant to the discussion at hand, which is that Rules of Engagement should be drafted specific to the case at hand.
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(Original post by alasdair_R)
That is irrelevant to the discussion at hand, which is that Rules of Engagement should be drafted specific to the case at hand.
It is perfectly relevent. The UN doesn't technically have a blanket rules of engagement. It works from a policy but they can be modified to fit the situation. The UK withdrew its troops from UN colours precisely because they wouldn't modify.
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(Original post by Ethereal)
The UN doesn't technically have a blanket rules of engagement. It works from a policy but they can be modified to fit the situation.
Indeed - which is the way it should be. The Syrian representative on the other hand is calling for the UN to mandate that all peacekeeping missions should be allowed to shoot to kill, regardless of whether this is appropriate or not.
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(Original post by alasdair_R)
Indeed - which is the way it should be. The Syrian representative on the other hand is calling for the UN to mandate that all peacekeeping missions should be allowed to shoot to kill, regardless of whether this is appropriate or not.
If attacked. Surely the UK would support this as it would allow you to send your troops as peacekeepers under the UN colours once more?
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Albania strongly believes that the UN mandates should be respected, and the Peacekeeping troops are given the protection that they require to effectively maintain peace in what otherwise would be troubled regions.
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(Original post by Ethereal)
If attacked. Surely the UK would support this as it would allow you to send your troops as peacekeepers under the UN colours once more?
It's got nothing to do with what we feel the Rules of Engagement should be in most cases. It's got everything to do with allowing the flexibility of having the Rules of Engagement decided on a case-by-case basis, rather than having them dictated by fiat forevermore.

And for your information, the UK has peacekeepers deployed in UN forces in countries including Sierra Leone, Cyprus, Congo, Sudan, Liberia, Ethiopia, Afghanistan and Georgia...
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(Original post by alasdair_R)
It's got nothing to do with what we feel the Rules of Engagement should be in most cases. It's got everything to do with allowing the flexibility of having the Rules of Engagement decided on a case-by-case basis, rather than having them dictated by fiat forevermore.
Surely an immenent threat to life should always allow a defence?

And for your information, the UK has peacekeepers deployed in UN forces in countries including Sierra Leone, Cyprus, Congo, Sudan, Liberia, Ethiopia, Afghanistan and Georgia...
They do indeed have personnel attached to those missions, but the UK troops have flown the Union Flag and regimental colours since Bosnia and go under the British Army's own rules of engagement.
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(Original post by Ethereal)
If attacked. Surely the UK would support this as it would allow you to send your troops as peacekeepers under the UN colours once more?
(Original post by 6+6=12)
Syria feels that the policy with regards to engaging enemy combatants should be changed. It is unfeasable to only act when shot at, it has become an infamous weakness known to potential breakers of peace and leaves the troops very unprotected.
That is not what the syrian representative advocated.

China (potentially) agrees with the UK position that flexibility is required in the use of peacekeeping troops
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(Original post by bikerx23)
That is not what the syrian representative advocated.

China (potentially) agrees with the UK position that flexibility is required in the use of peacekeeping troops
The syrian rep's post says "imminent threat to life". How is that not saying they have a right to fight back when attacked? Surely you must be attacked to be under imminent threat to life?
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