Hey I'm David and I started this forum for those thinking of applying to the DMU game art design course like myself as I wanted to get more information about portfolio and how good does it have to be in order to be accepted because surely only the best students ( that have potential and are all around food at art) can successfully apply for this course, and also what would be preferable to put in your portfolio and also the sketchbook that we will have to bring for out interview.
BTW, it would be cool if you could check out my ArtStation page and say what you think about my artwork since its important to me if I'm good enough for this uni and its portfolio standards in order to successfully get in.
Game Art Design De Montfort University 2017
- 06-09-2016 18:56
- 08-09-2016 22:30
Omg, your portfolio is amazing!! (Love your slums piece) There goes my chances at getting in :') Gonna have a look at DMU at an open day but I will almost definitely be applying too Think DMU have a couple of guides for their portfolio - I'm putting more pencil/observational sketches/drawings as apparently they like that sort of thing, and a few life drawings. I haven't done anywhere near as much digital art as you, nor is any of it even close to your standard! So i'll be showing a bit of digital and 3d but mostly traditional drawing/paintings probably. Maybe try putting in some concept ideas/sketches and some more tradition art too add into your portfolio? What you have is already incredible, but think they like the mix?
^^gonna try sticking to this guide. I have an observational drawing sketch book, more of a concept ideas one and a bigger one for my A level art which I will probably bring along - but I guess its worth talking to them at the open days.
^This one is from a different uni, but I assume all of the portfolio guidelines are the same.
- 11-09-2016 00:24
Thank you Tithan, I really appreciate your suggestions and comments And yeah I've been about 2 months ago at DMU Open Day and honestly their Game Art student's work was really really good and that's why I want to apply for their course and hopefully get in. Like you said, I don't really understand the thing with traditional drawing in my portfolio I mean I have a sketchbook that is filled with sketches of landscapes and also characters but since this is in my sketchbook I don't have a clue on what kind of 'traditional' piece I would have to do to put in my portfolio suggesting that it would have to be really good.
What would you recommend for me as of doing a traditional piece that could be featured in my portfolio since you said that a mix of both traditional and digital is more appealing if you don't mind me asking?
- 13-09-2016 00:27
Ah awesome, yeah - i've only seen the stuff on their website and all of that looks incredible. Would be amazing to be able to produce stuff like it. Ah okay, I do A level art so have quite a few acrylic and oil paintings on canvass/large bits of paper/boards which i'm gonna use. None of them are really relevant to game art, but i have only been doing more digital stuff recently so haven't got much that's any good or relevant subject wise. But I guess if you can show skill in drawing/painting on other pieces that are still your own work it should be okay? I'm gonna ask them at the next open day to be sure. Do you have any paintings or pastel/charcoal/any media, like A3 size ish? Although I'm not entrley sure what they are looking for traditional art wise, but thats the kind of stuff i'm probably putting in
- 13-09-2016 23:27
Yeah, I think that they would really like your traditional pieces I mean when I was on the Open Day and the teachers said that they would like to see a lot of observational drawings so I guess you'll be good. Yea I do but the A3 pieces are like really old from few years back when I was stating to draw but I guess I can draw some new ones for the portfolio, but i have some few observational drawings from a life drawing class I took for couple lessons, but I only did drew them with pencil. I don't know why but I don't feel confident enough with other media as strange as this may sound but I don't know, I guess I can try and see what happens.
By the way, are there any other universities that are on your mind that you'll be applying to, if you don't mind me asking?
- 14-09-2016 20:46
Aw thanks - hope, but not sure so will see... Most of my observational (from life) are smaller tho, my stuff is mainly just random paintings. Everywhere loves life drawings, so yours should be really good, i'd deffo put some in!? Oh, perhaps try to do one or two larger traditional bits then before hand, and if your not happy with them stick to the digital? Cos your digital stuff is already so good - there almost deffo gonna want you on the course! Fair enough tho, and the course is so heavily digitally focused I doubt it would be a major issue, especially if you do do pencil stuff?
Yeah, quite a few - got so many open days booked :') Think DMU is first choice as such a good reputation but, the student work looks really good from others too - gonna look/apply to Falmouth, South of Wales, Staffordshire and Norwich too. But tbh i'm still not 100% sure if the course itself is right as I do enjoy traditional stuff. :/ You got any others your thinking about too, or set on DMU?
- 15-09-2016 13:34
Your welcome, and yeah I guess I'll try to do some larger traditional pieces soon and thanks. I guess it is and I really like how their students have weekly life drawing sessions, its pretty cool.
Same here, I still gotta attend many other open days like at Norwich, Falmouth and also Staffordshire and I think I chose those because their students work is really good too like you said, but in the end we only have one uni to pick so its going to be really hard trying to find the best course for you and I, and also I doubt that any uni that you apply to won't give you a place since your portfolio is really good and i like your art style.
What sort of area of art career are you mostly interested in? I mean you can do freelance illustration, doing art for games/ films etc since a 3D/digital based course would lead you more towards games and film industry and traditional course would to more of an freelance illustration career but I'm just guessing.
- 16-09-2016 00:47
Yeah, i'm kinda glad they still value pencil drawings and stuff in observational drawing sessions too even if the focus is digital. Ah awesome - might see you at some of those open days then? (every weekend in october going to another uni *groan) Yeah, thats been the main deciding factor on the ones to visit, although if all the courses themselves look good then i guess the uni itself has quite a bit to play in the decision too. Still got a bit of time tho, and as long as on the course we develop our art skills and produce a portfolio of stuff we enjoy its worth it right? Aw, thanks! Although my digital stuff is still not a patch on yours
Yeah, i'm not totally sure tbh. Illustration splash pieces for games/films does sound like the ideal, but most illustration degrees don't really seem that appealing, so will probably go into that after a games art course. But then in which case it might be better to do one thats not quite as 3d heavy as DMU - although it still seems like the most respected course. Meh, still not too sure tbh but see what they say at the open days, and might change my mind once i'm on a course. What career path have you been thinking about afterwards?
- 16-09-2016 17:03
Yeah it would be quite cool to actually see you in person but it would be probably quite difficult since i don't really know how you look like and of course which dates you are going to attend what uni. And yeah we still have a bit of time to decide I guess and I really do think that DMU is strongly focused on traditional side of art too since at the Welcome Day, they were mentioning many times that they will teach their students quite a lot about traditional drawing which would be based on fundamentals and therefore will definitely improve our art skills.
Your welcome, and don't worry I can see that you have a lot of potential so just keep on learning and try your best and I'm here to help you if you need any help with digital stuff or anything so keep up the great work.
The thing with 3D that I actually like is that for any artist who wants to improve their art skills, doing 3D models will make your anatomy, form and proportions skills that much better and that's a small part of it since if you really get into 3D then in overall your general ability to draw traditionally will develop quite a bit, but I understand your point since I also am really interested in traditional art too.
Ideally I would want to be a character/ landscape artist since this is the area that I'm really into and so hopefully by the end of uni I'll be good enough to maybe join a small or indie game's company and then gradually go up the ladder.This may be out of the topic, but what do you usually do in your free time except like drawing and doing stuff for your portfolio?Last edited by DavidChachulskii; 17-09-2016 at 10:16.
- 19-09-2016 02:43
True, although I don't think there will be many people applying to the games art course compared to other degrees tbh! I'm at Norwich 8th Oct, Falmouth 29th Oct and Staff 18th Oct. Thats good tho, but tbh I think in a way its gonna be less the degree course and more how much time and work each student puts into it as if your not doing extra drawing outside the degree criteria your not gonna come out with an outstanding portfolio sort of thing. But DMU do stress how they push their students so that should help allot too!
Ahhah, thanks - you too! Yeah, doing 3d characters is always a good thing, and environments too - but slight issue with DMU is that i get the impression they focus on 3d environments the most, not sure if they do or not but get that feel from their student work on show which may not be quite so helpful with concept art/illustration roots. But idk. Something like character/environment design you could always do a traditional hand painting or something piece and weave it into your project.
At the moment yeah that sounds like an ideal career root for me too (But I've been changing my mind so much I won't be surprised if I decide something different later!) However it also seems the most competitive, alt east with a degree they help you get the first job/internship afterwards with the contacts which is a plus. Umm, well a levels and arty stuff mainly :') then I guess the geeky bits like games, anime, manga. Obsessive coffee drinker so I can stay up longer doing more pointless stuff. Dude idk! What about you?
- 19-09-2016 09:04
Yeah i think you're right since games art is probably like a minority within many other major courses. Cool, hopefully we'll be able to meet each other somehow at those open days and recognize each other. I agree, I mean its up to the student to really learn/ draw on their own in their free-time and this is going to set a boundary on how good their art skills and portfolio are.
Yeah they do quite a bit, and that kinda sucks since it would be good that they focused more towards things like concept art and and like you said illustration but hopefully its all in there. I guess you could since this is like your own style and your taste in art so I think that you should be good.
Its a pretty cool career choice but you know, if you get into it and then realize that it just isn't working out then you should change if you feel like it since I guess it quite important to get the feel of every subject and then pick the one you like or are interested in the most so I understand your view. That's pretty cool and I guess I like to draw mostly, read books, cycle sometimes and casually play chess but i'm not really good at it. What do you do for A levels?
BTW, if you don't mind can I add you on Facebook?Last edited by DavidChachulskii; 19-09-2016 at 17:44.
- 19-09-2016 19:37
Yeah, but the course itself is offered at less universities and there are probably a fair no. of students just choosing to go down the self teach root instead. To get into the industry properly the individual will always need to put a tone of extra work on top of any course. But meh - see how it all goes, still got time to build up further skills. Yeah - hopefully see you there. Pretty cool art careers also tend very competitive, but then again that's the same in pretty much any art industry. Once you have general composition, drawing, colour, tone, etc skills tho you can kinda transfer them to other jobs or mediums fairly easily which I guess is why illustration and concept art are more popular.
Think someone mentioned that you can choose to specialist in the third year like on just concept art and illustration although i'm not sure. Thx, see what they expect from us tho. Not really keen on actual 'game design' tho, like i have no real interest in coming up with the idea for the games to centre around, only the art ideas to go with it. So hope they don't try and introduce us to too many careers on the course, but a variety at the start is important. Ah awesome, I used to play chess rather competitively but dropped now. Umm, well art, maths, Philosophy and Ethics (RS) and had done, but now dropped Physics (Hallelujah!) What about you? Yeah sure thing - sent you a request.
- 19-09-2016 20:34
Yeah I guess so since if you can actually teach your self pretty good that you can teach yourself the things that you really want so that's a plus and yea I agree I mean its really competitive so you gotta work hard I guess and yea basically that's all you need to know and your good to go if you know those skills well enough.
Yea I remember something like that too, since the teachers there at DMU said that you can chose your field of interest for the whole year and then you get to do a lot of concepts and stuff for a group project. I get your point, I ain't a game designer either as I like to do the art for the game and like its concepts.
That's cool, and I'm now in college doing Art & Design but mostly we get taught animation so its alright i guess but I just cant wait till Uni, its a completely different life and its just a start of it so i'm pretty stoked about the whole idea of being free and independent in a way. How comes you dropped chess?
I think it'll be easier to continue talking on Facebook if that's fine with you?Last edited by DavidChachulskii; 19-09-2016 at 20:42.