UKIP MEP in row over working women (Sexism)

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3912205.stm

UKIP MEP in row over working women

A Euro MP for the UK Independence Party has sparked controversy hours into his first day in the Strasbourg parliament.

Godfrey Bloom was given a seat on the European Parliament's women's rights committee on Tuesday.

But he told the media: "No self-respecting small businessman with a brain in the right place would ever employ a lady of child-bearing age."
It's hardly surprising coming from the party who's London mayoral candidate announced that he would not campaign in Camden because there "are too many gays."

It's hard to take them seriously when their politicians come out with crap like this, but their policies would spell economic disaster in any case.
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Whilst it is impossible to agree with a lot of what he said, he is making a valid point. In the days of endless legislation against any sort of sexism and £1million pay offs for those who experience sexism, will it be any surprise when big companies start to employ fewer women?
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(Original post by Lord Huntroyde)
Whilst it is impossible to agree with a lot of what he said, he is making a valid point. In the days of endless legislation against any sort of sexism and £1million pay offs for those who experience sexism, will it be any surprise when big companies start to employ fewer women?
Won't be a problem, fathers' rights to paternity leave is growing. Implying that only women are a risk is sexist, many men take time off to take care of newborn babies too. I think at the moment men are entitled to 6 months unpaid leave, but it still costs a lot for the company to find a replacement for that time.
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Won't be a problem, fathers' rights to paternity leave is growing. Implying that only women are a risk is sexist, many men take time off to take care of newborn babies too. I think at the moment men are entitled to 6 months unpaid leave, but it still costs a lot for the company to find a replacement for that time.
I think paternity leave is only one month.
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at least that comment had some justification, unlike this,

..told journalists he wanted to deal with women's issues because: "I just don't think they clean behind the fridge enough".

"I am here to represent Yorkshire women who always have dinner on the table when you get home. I am going to promote men's rights," he added.
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at least that comment had some justification, unlike this,

..told journalists he wanted to deal with women's issues because: "I just don't think they clean behind the fridge enough".

"I am here to represent Yorkshire women who always have dinner on the table when you get home. I am going to promote men's rights," he added.
Though he did say that jokingly.
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Though he did say that jokingly.
apparently it wasn't said all-that jokingly, and that the UKip are just trying to cover it up as that. Doesn't show the party off to be very searious if he was joking, it just reinforces the idea tht they are a bunch of amateures.

Although to be honest, I don't think anyone is really deeply offended about it.
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(Original post by Lord Huntroyde)
I think paternity leave is only one month.
I've got a feeling that's paid leave. If you can afford it, you can take more time off without pay and, legally, your job is still secure.
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Although to be honest, I don't think anyone is really deeply offended about it.
As I doubt he has all that much political clout, I'm not bothered, it's just making me laugh at the silly little man.

If he was seriously campaigning for this, then I'd get a little worried...
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"No self-respecting small businessman with a brain in the right place would ever employ a lady of child-bearing age."
At last - a bit of honesty! It might not be politically correct but why would someone with a small business take on someone who they'll have to pay for up to a year without getting anything out of it but a tick in the PC box?
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I've got a feeling that's paid leave. If you can afford it, you can take more time off without pay and, legally, your job is still secure.
Same applies to women about job security.
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At last - a bit of honesty! It might not be politically correct but why would someone with a small business take on someone who they'll have to pay for up to a year without getting anything out of it but a tick in the PC box?

He said child-bearing age, not pregnant... I'd agree with him if we against employing a pregant woman for those reasons, but to say he wouldn't employ any woman of 16-45 years of age or so on the off chance they'll get pregnant straight away is just stupid. But then he's the one missing out on probably able and hard working people.
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Interesting to see that one of their other MEPs Ashley Mote has been supended by UKIP facing allegations of housing and benifit fraud.
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(Original post by Lord Huntroyde)
Same applies to women about job security.
I know, but you were saying that paternity leave was only a month, when I'm quite sure it's longer. As paternity leave was the issue there, I only mentioned that side of it.
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At last - a bit of honesty! It might not be politically correct but why would someone with a small business take on someone who they'll have to pay for up to a year without getting anything out of it but a tick in the PC box?
A woman of child bearing age, what's that? 18-40? Come on.

It's not for a year anyway. Women are entitled to 6 months paid leave, then they can have another 6 months unpaid.

If the business is so shaky that they don't think they could manage a 6 month burden then maybe they shouldn't be hiring more staff in the first place. In any case, usually you get a good 9 months warning :rolleyes:
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I know, but you were saying that paternity leave was only a month, when I'm quite sure it's longer. As paternity leave was the issue there, I only mentioned that side of it.
It seems to actually be 13 weeks, two of which are paid.
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A woman of child bearing age, what's that? 18-40? Come on.

It's not for a year anyway. Women are entitled to 6 months paid leave, then they can have another 6 months unpaid.

If the business is so shaky that they don't think they could manage a 6 month burden then maybe they shouldn't be hiring more staff in the first place. In any case, usually you get a good 9 months warning :rolleyes:
But you can see why some employers would just want to avoid the hassle. It's not right, but it happens.
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(Original post by Lord Huntroyde)
It seems to actually be 13 weeks, two of which are paid.
Really? Wow, that's nothing in comparison..
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Really? Wow, that's nothing in comparison..
So most men will probably be back to work after the two weeks.
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(Original post by Lord Huntroyde)
But you can see why some employers would just want to avoid the hassle. It's not right, but it happens.
Oh aye, but why does this legislation hurt women? A women doesn't want a job if she'll be fired the minute she gets broody. This way she knows that if she's given a job they actually want to employ her and keep her.
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