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for Msc in Finance or Financial mathematics / Financial Economic etc at LSE or Oxbridge... if i get a 1st class in my degree Mathematical economics and excellent references(im at Birmingham) would I need any finance work experience other than a decent summer internship?
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for Msc in Finance or Financial mathematics / Financial Economic etc at LSE or Oxbridge... if i get a 1st class in my degree Mathematical economics and excellent references(im at Birmingham) would I need any finance work experience other than a decent summer internship?
Have you checked the respective prospectus entries to see whether they list work experience as a requirement?

Anyway, for all you know they may well have changed their requirements by 2011/12, so I don't think this is anything you should worry about now. If you can get any work experience within the next couple of years, though, it probably won't hurt either way.
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Have you checked the respective prospectus entries to see whether they list work experience as a requirement?

Anyway, for all you know they may well have changed their requirements by 2011/12, so I don't think this is anything you should worry about now. If you can get any work experience within the next couple of years, though, it probably won't hurt either way.
Some requirements are a little ambiguous especially oxbridge websites,

GRE is strictly for non-UK grads ?
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Some requirements are a little ambiguous especially oxbridge websites,
Well, if they're ambiguous, it probably means they prefer work experience wherever possible. You'll have to email the departments if you want a more definite answer, but as I said, it will make more sense to do this closer to the time when you'll actually be applying. At the moment, this is a purely hypothetical question, and once you get there, things may well look quite different.:dontknow:
GRE is strictly for non-UK grads ?
To my knowledge, yes. I suppose if you happened to have taken it already because you were applying to American universities as well, you might as well include it, though.
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Well, if they're ambiguous, it probably means they prefer work experience wherever possible. You'll have to email the departments if you want a more definite answer, but as I said, it will make more sense to do this closer to the time when you'll actually be applying. At the moment, this is a purely hypothetical question, and once you get there, things may well look quite different.:dontknow:

To my knowledge, yes. I suppose if you happened to have taken it already because you were applying to American universities as well, you might as well include it, though.
True. But im not risking anything. If work experience is possibly required I will strive from now to ensure I have it,

Msc. Financial mathematics ... what kind of work experience would they realistically xpect you to have?
I havent taken the GRE ..
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Do you get three colleges to choose for each course? im so academic wants to know!
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Do you get three colleges to choose for each course? im so academic wants to know!
I only got two...
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I only got two...
Oh I swear it's three. Read something by Socrates yonks ago. Grades permitting I'd apply to two courses at both universities (one year taught MSc, one two year MPhil). Amid the financial situation I might see a higher chance of an offer for a taught corse than a research one. A little theory I've thought of a while back.
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Oh I swear it's three. Read something by Socrates yonks ago. Grades permitting I'd apply to two courses at both universities (one year taught MSc, one two year MPhil). Amid the financial situation I might see a higher chance of an offer for a taught corse than a research one. A little theory I've thought of a while back.
Well, it may well have changed this year- I only picked Hertford and Balliol at Oxford, (theres a complex scenario of any potential scholarship for the Snell award only working if you are accepted and choose Balliol), but I certainly would have picked more options if I had the choice.
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Do you get three colleges to choose for each course? im so academic wants to know!
It's two for Oxford, not sure for Cam
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Well, it may well have changed this year- I only picked Hertford and Balliol at Oxford, (theres a complex scenario of any potential scholarship for the Snell award only working if you are accepted and choose Balliol), but I certainly would have picked more options if I had the choice.
Yeah I'm wondering whether it's different rules for different types of programmes and/or courses. Seems a bit harsh to only have two choices, three would be better. :cool:

I have a short list of both universities' colleges and I'm a fresher. Sad, innit?
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It's two for Oxford, not sure for Cam
Noooo! I always wondered whether it's worth applying to the least aesthetically appealing colleges to increase chances of an offer. Not that architecture is everything but you know. The DSU is quite bad so I'm used to looking at awful buildings.
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(Original post by NDGAARONDI)
Yeah I'm wondering whether it's different rules for different types of programmes and/or courses. Seems a bit harsh to only have two choices, three would be better. :cool:

I have a short list of both universities' colleges and I'm a fresher. Sad, innit?
Doesn't really matter I guess- if the dept accept you and the colleges don't, you still get pooled round the rest of them to see if one of them does. I had strict stipulations on making Balliol my first choice, so I can't imagine a) the difference between 2 and 3 out of over 30 will make much difference and b) that you'd have any better chance of getting into a college where they know you've picked them as a third choice. At least I can tell Hertford (which I have) that the Balliol application was purely financial, and I would have picked them top otherwise. Smooooth.

And yes, don't worry about Colleges right now- concentrate on the degree in hand, when you get close to completion, or even applying, then start worrying.
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Doesn't really matter I guess- if the dept accept you and the colleges don't, you still get pooled round the rest of them to see if one of them does. I had strict stipulations on making Balliol my first choice, so I can't imagine a) the difference between 2 and 3 out of over 30 will make much difference and b) that you'd have any better chance of getting into a college where they know you've picked them as a third choice. At least I can tell Hertford (which I have) that the Balliol application was purely financial, and I would have picked them top otherwise. Smooooth.
Yeah I wondered the difference in logistics between them and my own university (Durham). If the offer comes from the department then that's cool.

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And yes, don't worry about Colleges right now- concentrate on the degree in hand, when you get close to completion, or even applying, then start worrying.
Yeah. Only college which stood out if I wanted to do research was All Souls as it is a research only college. Would be an interesting environment to be in.
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Does the situation ever arise where you would get an offer from the department, but not any colleges? I can imagine that being highly embarassing.
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Does the situation ever arise where you would get an offer from the department, but not any colleges? I can imagine that being highly embarassing.
Yes. And vice-versa. Bizarre.
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Does the situation ever arise where you would get an offer from the department, but not any colleges? I can imagine that being highly embarassing.
Not at Cam, your file will be trawled around every single College until you get a place. I believe, though don't have any link to back it up, that if it gets really late, BoGS can send your file back to your original first choice and make them take you.
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Not at Cam, your file will be trawled around every single College until you get a place. I believe, though don't have any link to back it up, that if it gets really late, BoGS can send your file back to your original first choice and make them take you.
Is that because of the way the Graduate Studies lot work at Cambridge? Am I right in saying Dept can make you an offer at ugrad but then be rejected by the pool? I'm sure thats happened to folk, but it may have just been Oxford.
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Well, it may well have changed this year- I only picked Hertford and Balliol at Oxford, (theres a complex scenario of any potential scholarship for the Snell award only working if you are accepted and choose Balliol), but I certainly would have picked more options if I had the choice.
No, it hasn't - not for Oxford, anyway.
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Undergrad and post-grad place allocations work entirely differently. At undergrad you apply to a college and they make the academic decision (with some departmental consultation). At post-grad level you apply to a department and give a college preference. Once you have been offered an academic place a college place is guaranteed , what is not guaranteed is that it will be one of the colleges you expressed a preference for. You can't get a post-grad college offer without an academic offer - the paperwork isn't sent around like that.
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