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For those living particularly in London, how do you find the take home pay?


Is it satisfactory in terms of everything? mortgage, social life, supporting family etc.


I have always been interested in healthcare but know that it is a profession that is taken for granted, hence i am asking the question.

I know that the starting salary of a newly qualified nurse is about £21,000(for guidelines only) which is not bad for a start, however, if you consider tax, bills, mortgage, social activities, student loans(no more NHS funded degree) etc, it is abysmal in my opinion.

Money should not be a factor when choosing a career and whilst that is mostly true, i can't help but think, i may not achieve the lifestyle that i want in terms of mortgage, supporting my mum and dad financially when they are older and enjoying my own social life.

Edit: I have also heard that nursing is lots of paper- work as opposed to person-centered care which is really downhearted seeing as(i believe) i have the nursing quality in me.
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You should think about money in a career, if you didn't then you might as well be on minimum wage
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German, in all honesty you can make plenty of money in nursing, shitloads. However are you willing to take the pressures to achieve that amount?

Staring is 22k in the NHS, after a year or so you could apply for band 6, 26k+.

However you could also pick up agency shifts, these pay ridiculous money £30+ at times, I know nurses who've picked up £300 for 8 hours work. Although you have to be competent in the tasks you taking on.

There are other avenues you could become a Botox nurse, these are making stupid money... But can you live with yourself is you ruin sombodies face.

You getting the picture???

Nursing is hard and emotionally draining if your good at science complete a mechanical engineering degree. That would earn you the same sort of cash without the pressure of death but then again if you don't fix those breaks properly on that train... Crash.

Pressure = Cash.
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Oh I also agree with you seen as the degree is no longer free, no bursary you be working at least 2300 hours for free... Pretty poor IMHO. I wouldn't do it now glad I did it before.
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(Original post by German123)
For those living particularly in London, how do you find the take home pay?


Is it satisfactory in terms of everything? mortgage, social life, supporting family etc.


I have always been interested in healthcare but know that it is a profession that is taken for granted, hence i am asking the question.

I know that the starting salary of a newly qualified nurse is about £21,000(for guidelines only) which is not bad for a start, however, if you consider tax, bills, mortgage, social activities, student loans(no more NHS funded degree) etc, it is abysmal in my opinion.

Money should not be a factor when choosing a career and whilst that is mostly true, i can't help but think, i may not achieve the lifestyle that i want in terms of mortgage, supporting my mum and dad financially when they are older and enjoying my own social life.

Edit: I have also heard that nursing is lots of paper- work as opposed to person-centered care which is really downhearted seeing as(i believe) i have the nursing quality in me.
I live on my own in a one bed flat, in a pretty expensive city (Not London) - I'm about 3.5 miles from the city centre. My take home income is probably on average £1500 a month. My total outgoings per month are in the region of £900-£1000 per month - all in. Socialising and new clothes and that included, although if I travel home and stuff it can be a bit more. I manage to save the other £500 a month, and have been doing that for maybe 8 months now - possibly a bit longer.

Albeit I don't drive, and I don't have any dependents. I also do a bit of bank work on my ward to supplement my income, although I've not included that in the figures above. So for me, in managing what I have well, and shopping around for the best deals, I definitely live comfortably on a nurses wage, and could live more lavishly if I chose to.
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I live on my own in a one bed flat, in a pretty expensive city (Not London) - I'm about 3.5 miles from the city centre. My take home income is probably on average £1500 a month. My total outgoings per month are in the region of £900-£1000 per month - all in. Socialising and new clothes and that included, although if I travel home and stuff it can be a bit more. I manage to save the other £500 a month, and have been doing that for maybe 8 months now - possibly a bit longer.

Albeit I don't drive, and I don't have any dependents. I also do a bit of bank work on my ward to supplement my income, although I've not included that in the figures above. So for me, in managing what I have well, and shopping around for the best deals, I definitely live comfortably on a nurses wage, and could live more lavishly if I chose to.
Cool.

Thanks for your reply.
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German, in all honesty you can make plenty of money in nursing, shitloads. However are you willing to take the pressures to achieve that amount?

Staring is 22k in the NHS, after a year or so you could apply for band 6, 26k+.
basic NHS salaries do not include the variable pay elements - which for Nurses working rotational shift patterns in 24 /7 environments can add 20 - 30 % to your total pay

yuou will not be able to get a band 6 post after 1 year , even the favourites with Matronage take 3 + years

love to know how someone would manage to complete preceptorship, a years clinical experience and a 6 month programme for SLiP as well as develop sufficient speciality and managerial experience to apply for a band 6 role.


the rest ofthe post is also fantasy land for a NQN - those routinely earning in excess of 30 gbp / hr for agency shifts are either experienced sisters/ CNs in roles where a sister/ CN is needed or Specialists / Practitioners / prescribers

yes 30 gbp a hour for a none specialist is possible - for a hard to fill location on a sunday afternoon perhaps
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basic NHS salaries do not include the variable pay elements - which for Nurses working rotational shift patterns in 24 /7 environments can add 20 - 30 % to your total pay

yuou will not be able to get a band 6 post after 1 year , even the favourites with Matronage take 3 + years

love to know how someone would manage to complete preceptorship, a years clinical experience and a 6 month programme for SLiP as well as develop sufficient speciality and managerial experience to apply for a band 6 role.


the rest ofthe post is also fantasy land for a NQN - those routinely earning in excess of 30 gbp / hr for agency shifts are either experienced sisters/ CNs in roles where a sister/ CN is needed or Specialists / Practitioners / prescribers

yes 30 gbp a hour for a none specialist is possible - for a hard to fill location on a sunday afternoon perhaps
1. A friend/colleague of mine who has been qualified 1 year has just got a part time Band 6 secondment to a Diabetes CNS role.

2. £30 a hour as an agency nurse in paediatrics is fairly standard.
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1. A friend/colleague of mine who has been qualified 1 year has just got a part time Band 6 secondment to a Diabetes CNS role.
and how much Matronage did that require ?


2. £30 a hour as an agency nurse in paediatrics is fairly standard.
numbers game in paeds esp if the unit are adamant they want someone RSCN / child branch
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and how much Matronage did that require ?



numbers game in paeds esp if the unit are adamant they want someone RSCN / child branch
There's quite a few I've heard of getting sixes after a year to two years around here too. How much of that is due to them being the favourite I don't know, and tbh, I don't think it's long enough as a qualified nurse to be able to manage as a six, but if people want to do that then it's up to them.

I'm not going to go on about how much I can make as agency as part of the ITU master race.
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There's quite a few I've heard of getting sixes after a year to two years around here too. How much of that is due to them being the favourite I don't know, and tbh, I don't think it's long enough as a qualified nurse to be able to manage as a six, but if people want to do that then it's up to them.

I'm not going to go on about how much I can make as agency as part of the ITU master race.
depends on the role

6 as a development for Specialist role perhaps, but 6 as a Practitioner or Charge Nurse - complete joke ...

while there are now Bursary Nursing Officers in the Forces commissioning on qualification - they are not actually used as Nursing Officers for 2 years until they are substantive full QA lt / PM FlOff .... they are just commissioned Staff Nurses same as the A/cpl and sub Sub Cpl / LNN staff Nurses
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depends on the role

6 as a development for Specialist role perhaps, but 6 as a Practitioner or Charge Nurse - complete joke ...

while there are now Bursary Nursing Officers in the Forces commissioning on qualification - they are not actually used as Nursing Officers for 2 years until they are substantive full QA lt / PM FlOff .... they are just commissioned Staff Nurses same as the A/cpl and sub Sub Cpl / LNN staff Nurses
I'm on about NHS ward band sixes here, rather than the military. I know of a few people who've got themselves band six posts quite quickly. Like I said before, I'm not sure I agree, I think it takes longer to have enough clinical and NHS political experience than a year or two afford.
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I'm on about NHS ward band sixes here, rather than the military. I know of a few people who've got themselves band six posts quite quickly. Like I said before, I'm not sure I agree, I think it takes longer to have enough clinical and NHS political experience than a year or two afford.
in a ward based role an OF1 Nursing Officer in the military is functioning in a role similar to a band 6 , and Of2 NOs 6 or 7 depending on exact setting

the point i'm aking is that as the miliatary does no even consider direct entry NOs ( rather than bursars) until they have at least 2 year post reg - so realistically 3 or more AND their commissioning course / core Military Nursing post -reg training before they ar let loose in any form of leadership role
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Hi German - I'm wondering, did you end up pursuing a career in healthcare, specifically as a nurse?
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No , nursing won't make you rich. It will make u ok but not rich . I would not really recommend my children to become nurses
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