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Don't you think IQ tests are pathetic? I've done them before and have scored well on them! But they seem to be just the basis for people to compare themselves to one another and to try and boats about their IQ. To be frank I don't think that it matters about your IQ and that many people become compacent and don't achieve their potential.
My point can be proven from the mensa booklet that they send you where it tells you one of the perks is a credit card with 'Mensa' written on it...........how pathetic! Do members who have these cars just get them to inflate their own ego.......I think the answer is YES!
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I always thought IQ tests were a waste of time. Last time I checked I was 147 but that was a couple of years ago
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Too true - according to the scale I did it on (in which Einstein is 133) I got results ranging from 130 to 140. This would mean that on average I was more intelligent than Einstein. :eek:
you just proved that IQ tests are absolute ********, unless you can come up with a new version of the general theory of relativity yourself
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My tested IQ is supposedly 156 but it keeps changing...I was 97 once, must have been an off day. :rolleyes: The tests are so daft.
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(Original post by Scottus_Mus)
Don't you think IQ tests are pathetic? I've done them before and have scored well on them! But they seem to be just the basis for people to compare themselves to one another and to try and boats about their IQ. To be frank I don't think that it matters about your IQ and that many people become compacent and don't achieve their potential.
My point can be proven from the mensa booklet that they send you where it tells you one of the perks is a credit card with 'Mensa' written on it...........how pathetic! Do members who have these cars just get them to inflate their own ego.......I think the answer is YES!
What is meant to be the reason for joining Mensa then other than this credit card business.

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you just proved that IQ tests are absolute ********, unless you can come up with a new version of the general theory of relativity yourself
Can't do that I'm afraid though I do understand the theory (which may be on the verge of being disproven by faster than light speed particals).
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any good sites for online iq tests?
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any good sites for online iq tests?
Try http://web.tickle.com/tests/uiq/auth.../uiq/index.jsp
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thanx
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i have got 145 and 139 in 2 diff tests, so i would say the one which gave me 145 was more accurate
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Are IQ tests on-line different??
I have been told that online IQ tests are not professional, so the best way to get a ballpark figure of your IQ (brain processing power) is to get tested by a real psychologist.

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Did test when I was 13, I think, and got 157... I have no common sense though and don't think much of the IQ system as it discriminates against people who don't have English as a first language, people without much formal education, etc...
IQ tests can be given to people in their own language, so they are not culturally biased towards Europeans. In fact, East Asians generally score a few points higher than Europeans on the tests.

The American Psychological Association (http://www.apa.org/) had concluded that IQ tests are not culturally biased.

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I got 111 on the tv test and consider that a fair iq test.
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is anyone else here actually in mensa?

(i havn't bothered to read all the posts, i'm quite tired really)
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is anyone else here actually in mensa?

(i havn't bothered to read all the posts, i'm quite tired really)
Here is the MENSA Usenet group if you want to meet some real MENSANS: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...=rec.org.mensa

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is anyone else here actually in mensa?

(i havn't bothered to read all the posts, i'm quite tired really)
Me and I think there must be more...
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IQ's don't test intelligence, they test how good you are at taking IQ tests.
From http://www.mugu.com/cgi-bin/Upstream...ell-curve.html

"The Meaning and Measurement of Intelligence

1. Intelligence is a very general mental capability that, among other
things, involves the ability to reason, plan, solve problems, think
abstractly, comprehend complex ideas, learn quickly and learn from
experience. It is not merely book learning, a narrow academic skill, or
test-taking smarts. Rather, it reflects a broader and deeper capability
for comprehending our surroundings--"catching on," "making sense" of
things, or "figuring out" what to do.

2. Intelligence, so defined, can be measured, and intelligence tests
measure it well. They are among the most accurate (in technical terms,
reliable and valid) of all psychological tests and assessments. They do
not measure creativity, character personality, or other important
differences among individuals, nor are they intended to.

3. While there are different types of intelligence tests, they all measure
the same intelligence. Some use words or numbers and require specific
cultural knowledge (like vocabulary). Others do not, and instead use
shapes or designs and require knowledge of only simple, universal
concepts (many/few, open/closed, up/down).

[ . . . ]

5. Intelligence tests are not culturally biased against American blacks or
other native-born, English-speaking peoples in the U.S. Rather, IQ
scores predict equally accurately for all such Americans, regardless of
race and social class. Individuals who do not understand English well
can be given either a nonverbal test or one in their native language.

[ . . . ]

9. IQ is strongly related, probably more so than any other single
measurable human trait, to many important educational, occupational,
economic, and social outcomes. Its relation to the welfare and
performance of individuals is very strong in some arenas in life
(education, military training), moderate but robust in others (social
competence), and modest but consistent in others (law-abidingness).
Whatever IQ tests measure, it is of great practical and social
importance.

10. A high IQ is an advantage in life because virtually all activities
require some reasoning and decision-making. Conversely, a low IQ is
often a disadvantage, especially in disorganized environments. Of
course, a high IQ no more guarantees success than a low IQ guarantees
failure in life. There are many exceptions, but the odds for success in
our society greatly favor individuals with higher IQs.

11. The practical advantages of having a higher IQ increase as life
settings become more complex (novel, ambiguous, changing,
unpredictable, or multifaceted). For example, a high IQ is generally
necessary to perform well in highly complex or fluid jobs (the
professions, management): it is a considerable advantage in moderately
complex jobs (crafts, clerical and police work); but it provides less
advantage in settings that require only routine decision making or
simple problem solving (unskilled work)."

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Yes yes.

So how could we measure 'true' intelligence anyway, as most of what we perceive to be intelligence is based on knowledge anyway? I don't rate those spatial awareness/pattern matching type things, I think they only test a certain part of intelligence, and are also not purely intuitive, meaning prior knowledge is necessary. Surely only something of a type people haven't seen before would be a true test, so as prior knowledge would not be a factor and only intuition and reasoning would play a part. But then, isn't reasoning also taught?
From http://psych.utoronto.ca/~reingold/c...8gottfred.html

"Moreover, research on the physiology and genetics of g has uncovered biological correlates of this psychological phenomenon. In the past decade, studies by teams of researchers in North America and Europe have linked several attributes of the brain to general intelligence. After taking into account gender and physical stature, brain size as determined by magnetic resonance imaging is moderately correlated with IQ (about 0.4 on a scale of 0 to 1). So is the speed of nerve conduction. The brains of bright people also use less energy during problem solving than do those of their less able peers. And various qualities of brain waves correlate strongly (about 0.5 to 0.7) with IQ: the brain waves of individuals with higher IQs, for example, respond more promptly and consistently to simple sensory stimuli such as audible clicks. These observations have led some investigators to posit that differences in g result from differences in the speed and efficiency of neural processing."

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Me and I think there must be more...
yeah i'm guessing there are quite a few of us, or at least people worthy enough to join us, lurking around here
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yeah i'm guessing there are quite a few of us, or at least people worthy enough to join us, lurking around here
im sure I read a thread on this a few months ago where at least one person said they qualified to join but didn't. Might be totally inventing that though as I am wont to do at times
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I have been told that online IQ tests are not professional, so the best way to get a ballpark figure of your IQ (brain processing power) is to get tested by a real psychologist.

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and this comes from someone who calls him self "Isaac Newton" ? :rolleyes:
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