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I notice that there are some universities that are not part of the Russel Group but which seem to out rank some Russel group universities consistently across multiple league tables. My question is are they actually better and would they be seen as strongly or stronger by potential employers. The specific Universities I am referring to are..

ST Andrews
Lancaster university
University Aberdeen
Bath
Reading
Sussex

I know there are others debatable but kind of wanted to keep it relevant to the ones that keep scoring high.and that made the top 200 of global universities.

I notice Liverpool despite been Russel group usually fails to score well is that one worth it despite the fact it is Russel group?
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I notice that there are some universities that are not part of the Russel Group but which seem to out rank some Russel group universities consistently across multiple league tables. My question is are they actually better and would they be seen as strongly or stronger by potential employers. The specific Universities I am referring to are..

ST Andrews
Lancaster university
University Aberdeen
Bath
Reading
Sussex

I know there are others debatable but kind of wanted to keep it relevant to the ones that keep scoring high.and that made the top 200 of global universities.

I notice Liverpool despite been Russel group usually fails to score well is that one worth it despite the fact it is Russel group?
Lancaster University has risen fast in the past decade or so and is now a very good University in the league tables. There's a paragraph I found on their student unions site,giving a potential reason.
"The exact reason why Lancaster never joined the Russell Group is unknown, but I know of one potential explanation. In 1994, when the Russell Group was established, Lancaster was a small university and may not have had enough funds to support joining the group. If that’s true, it could explain why in 2007 Lancaster joined forces with seven northern Russell Group universities and created the N8 Research Partnership. It’s almost as if the partnership was designed to convince others that Lancaster has the same high-quality research as its Russell rivals." (source: http://scan.lusu.co.uk/index.php/201...-universities/)
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Lancaster University has risen fast in the past decade or so and is now a very good University in the league tables. There's a paragraph I found on their student unions site,giving a potential reason.
"The exact reason why Lancaster never joined the Russell Group is unknown, but I know of one potential explanation. In 1994, when the Russell Group was established, Lancaster was a small university and may not have had enough funds to support joining the group. If that’s true, it could explain why in 2007 Lancaster joined forces with seven northern Russell Group universities and created the N8 Research Partnership. It’s almost as if the partnership was designed to convince others that Lancaster has the same high-quality research as its Russell rivals." (source: http://scan.lusu.co.uk/index.php/201...-universities/)
Interesting I guess that explains Lancaster which kind of sucks because they look like a good University, however if the employers have not caught on yet then that means it probably is best not to apply there if I have grades high enough to go there.

I guess the one I am most interested in though is St Andrews because they do very well in global rankings 77th so top 100 which is meant to be considered world class by institution not for maths my future degree subject. They are also top 5 in UK unis and for maths in several league tables.

yet they ask for AAA where as all the others ask for A*A*A so obviously they stand out. I am wondering whether employers would see a degree from there (in maths) as the same or better then most Russel group unis?
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There’s also Loughborough too.

But the reason The University of Aberdeen isn’t Russell Group is because it didn’t produced enough world leading research in 2012 when it applied to join. This has resulted in significant investment to combat this fault. Should it apply again within the next few years it would almost certainly become a Russell Group member
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Interesting I guess that explains Lancaster which kind of sucks because they look like a good University, however if the employers have not caught on yet then that means it probably is best not to apply there if I have grades high enough to go there.

I guess the one I am most interested in though is St Andrews because they do very well in global rankings 77th so top 100 which is meant to be considered world class by institution not for maths my future degree subject. They are also top 5 in UK unis and for maths in several league tables.

yet they ask for AAA where as all the others ask for A*A*A so obviously they stand out. I am wondering whether employers would see a degree from there (in maths) as the same or better then most Russel group unis?
St Andrews asks for A*A*A too
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What’s wrong with Lancaster, reading and Sussex?
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Think Lancaster is quite good (quite high actually), heard things about Reading being ok but I’d never consider Sussex to be in any category near them
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