Best universities for political career later in life?

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    I'm applying to universities based on how good they are, or how successful they have been in the past, for jumping into politics either after uni or later in life.

    At the moment I've got:

    1. HSPS at Cambridge
    2. Politics and Philosophy at Edinburgh

    Could anyone help with suggestions?


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    Christ Church Oxford has produced more Prime Ministers than all of Cambridge put together

    I'm looking to do PPE at Oxford or the LSE. Nigel Lawson and David Cameron are the two names that immediately jump to mind of politicians who took PPE at Oxford (the former at Christ Church).
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    (Original post by Southwestern)
    Christ Church Oxford has produced more Prime Ministers than all of Cambridge put together

    I'm looking to do PPE at Oxford or the LSE. Nigel Lawson and David Cameron are the two names that immediately jump to mind of politicians who took PPE at Oxford (the former at Christ Church).
    I prefer not to be another PPE clone, no offence to your good self of course. Hence the reason I'm looking to Cambridge as opposed to Oxford. Also, PPE requires maths A Level, which I do not possess.

    I'm more thinking about the other 3 universities aside from my first 2. I had considered LSE, but it's as hard to get into as Oxbridge in my opinion.


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    (Original post by Reaver Daniels)
    I prefer not to be another PPE clone, no offence to your good self of course. Hence the reason I'm looking to Cambridge as opposed to Oxford. Also, PPE requires maths A Level, which I do not possess.

    I'm more thinking about the other 3 universities aside from my first 2. I had considered LSE, but it's as hard to get into as Oxbridge in my opinion.


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    These are all quite important concerns.

    The reason why I'm not considering HSPS is that it's a very distinct course which has only a fractional political element with it. It's distinct from PPE because it focuses on political sciences, as opposed to the political theory on which PPE tends to focus instead.

    From my understanding, political sciences is great if you want to look into voter behaviour, elections, campaigns, etc. - but for the political theory which underlies all campaigning and really gets down to different schools of political philosophy, HSPS doesn't give. I presume that this is possibly the most important distinction to be made between Edinburgh's course and HSPS at Cambridge, although I've never looked at Philosophy and Politics.

    I've given this advice this week to a friend who's just dropped out of A-level economics, and please consider it: if you want to go into politics, learn some economics. It's an amazing subject which completely changes the way that you see politics and which can better inform your understanding of different political positions. You might not have the appetite to study it at university, which is fair, but I think the best politician should have a reasonable grasp of the subject - so I would strongly recommend you look into economics if you haven't taken it for A-level and if you're keen on politics as a career.
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    Oxbridge PPE
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    [email protected] is the way to go
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    PPE at Oxford is much better regarded than HSPS at Cambridge, but you said you don't want to do that.

    Any social science/humanities essay-based course is useful e.g. Economics, Philosophy, International Relations, Geography etc. Other than oxbridge London unis like LSE and UCL would help. You want to go to a RG uni, for sure.
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    PPE and do the Maths A level. Clones are all well and good, but theres a reason they do it.
    Alternatively you will find there are a lot of lawyers.
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    (Original post by Southwestern)
    These are all quite important concerns.

    The reason why I'm not considering HSPS is that it's a very distinct course which has only a fractional political element with it. It's distinct from PPE because it focuses on political sciences, as opposed to the political theory on which PPE tends to focus instead.

    From my understanding, political sciences is great if you want to look into voter behaviour, elections, campaigns, etc. - but for the political theory which underlies all campaigning and really gets down to different schools of political philosophy, HSPS doesn't give. I presume that this is possibly the most important distinction to be made between Edinburgh's course and HSPS at Cambridge, although I've never looked at Philosophy and Politics.

    I've given this advice this week to a friend who's just dropped out of A-level economics, and please consider it: if you want to go into politics, learn some economics. It's an amazing subject which completely changes the way that you see politics and which can better inform your understanding of different political positions. You might not have the appetite to study it at university, which is fair, but I think the best politician should have a reasonable grasp of the subject - so I would strongly recommend you look into economics if you haven't taken it for A-level and if you're keen on politics as a career.
    Yea, I'm just going into the A2 year of Econ A Level, and am predicted an A*. I am very good at economic theory, but I know that I would not do as well at the mathematical element of a degree.

    As for HSPS/PPE, I've looked at the modules for the politics and international relations element of the course and they do appear very theoretical and philosophical in nature. There are one or two modules which mimic the politics A Level, but that's it. A lot of it is not entirely dissimilar to PPE politics.


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    (Original post by ♥Samantha♥)
    PPE at Oxford is much better regarded than HSPS at Cambridge, but you said you don't want to do that.

    Any social science/humanities essay-based course is useful e.g. Economics, Philosophy, International Relations, Geography etc. Other than oxbridge London unis like LSE and UCL would help. You want to go to a RG uni, for sure.
    Yes, I want to apply to UCL, but they don't have politics other than PPE and politics with Eastern studies. I could do philosophy there though I suppose.


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    This entire thread is a lol in itself.

    Go to a uni and do a course you like. Get involved with the political societies about and don't be a dickhead...

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    To be quite honest, it's irrelevant, that annoying thing people who fail talk about called "the university of life" is most important, and given your likely position, work.
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    (Original post by Lord Jon)
    This entire thread is a lol in itself.

    Go to a uni and do a course you like. Get involved with the political societies about and don't be a dickhead...

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    Lol, somebody doesn't seem to know how the political world works. 🍸


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    PPE at Christ Church Oxford
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    Can anybody tell me where OP said they want to be PM? I imagine the average MP either has no degree or only just has one insomuch that most will either not have one, or at least it will be irrelevant.

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Can anybody tell me where OP said they want to be PM? I imagine the average MP either has no degree or only just has one insomuch that most will either not have one, or at least it will be irrelevant.
    If we're gonna be that nuanced, we might as well ask him what party he's in. But then we'd end up hearing that he's Labour and would have to advise him to go to London Met
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    (Original post by Reaver Daniels)
    Lol, somebody doesn't seem to know how the political world works. 🍸
    I think you're putting the coach before the horses entirely here. There are many routes into politics and many different types of politics you can involved yourself in.

    PPE is only particularly useful if you want to go into policy work as a stepping-stone. Which will give some initial satisfaction, but in most cases you'll want to actually get a job in something like public affairs. Even then, you'll often find other subjects like Law are more respected.

    Barring the advantages of Oxford and Cambridge generally, you'll not benefit enormously from any particular university. If you're thinking that involvement in student politics is going to somehow boost you into Parliament, then you're quite wrong - no-one gives half a **** if you rose to the lofty ranks of Chair of some university Conservative Association or Labour Club.

    But of course, most MPs enter politics from completely unrelated professions. So I'm not sure you can realistically say that any degree course is particularly useful here. Try being a fairly rounded individual, deliver some leaflets and in your mid-20s start showing up to your constituency association and push for a council ward.
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    (Original post by Reaver Daniels)
    I'm applying to universities based on how good they are, or how successful they have been in the past, for jumping into politics either after uni or later in life.

    At the moment I've got:

    1. HSPS at Cambridge
    2. Politics and Philosophy at Edinburgh

    Could anyone help with suggestions?


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    Lol you can't exactly have thought very hard if you didn't have PPE at Oxford on your list!
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    (Original post by Reaver Daniels)
    Lol, somebody doesn't seem to know how the political world works. 🍸


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    He's got a point, the Tory/Oxford PPE machine is slowing dying. Blair came from a law degree (Oxford), Theresa did geography (also Oxford) but Gordon brown went to Edinburgh uni and did history. So I guess going to a good university is clearly necessary but the course not so much, those are only some of the recent PM's and of course PPE still dominates uk politics but it's opening up.

    Oxford is of course the red carpet to politics but since you don't wanna go there and do PPE you might as well just go to a good uni of your choice and a course of choice, they'll all have roughly the same chance unless it's a bad uni, your activism and involvement in politics will be more decisive of your political career as you won't have that red carpet. The only uni that is known for helping people into politics is Oxford, that comma should be a full stop.

    Dare I forget to mention the forgotten John Major! The chap didn't even have a degree
 
 
 
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