Civil Service Faststream Watch

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(Original post by gt94sss2)
The Fast Stream and most of the available jobs are open to Commonwealth and EU/EEA citizens as well as British ones.

In the assessment centre I met at least one French woman and someone from Germany who was completing his masters in the UK.. as well as a British person who had come all the way from Iran!

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I'm tempted to ask the Faststream team about the possibility of linking up faststreamers who are having to relocate to London from a long way away at a similar time to see if there is anyone who might want to join in on a short term (6 months?) houseshare while we figure out where and how we want to live! I think I'd rather join a house share with some strangers who are in teh same boat as me career wise than just some strangers I find on a letting agency website
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(Original post by gt94sss2)

I don't think it can take much longer for the feedback reports to be released - as people will need them for their Final Selection Boards (if relevant).. also I seem to remember at least one of my assessors (the briefing exercise one) typing away while I completed by self assessment form.
The assessments were all held on the Monday-Wednesday so the reports, I guess, will have been written up either on the same day or on the Thurs-Friday. It's hard to understand why it's taking so long for them to be available online.
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I'm tempted to ask the Faststream team about the possibility of linking up faststreamers who are having to relocate to London from a long way away at a similar time to see if there is anyone who might want to join in on a short term (6 months?) houseshare while we figure out where and how we want to live! I think I'd rather join a house share with some strangers who are in teh same boat as me career wise than just some strangers I find on a letting agency website
You could try Facebook? There's a faststreamers group on there already, or you could start one for people who got through this year. My friend did that last year for a different company and found some housemates.
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do none of you have them yet? mine was available last week straight after i got my result.

does anyone else have an fsb for clerkships?
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do none of you have them yet? mine was available last week straight after i got my result.
not yet...kinda getting used to the waiting theme though!
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(Original post by Angel_Cake)
You could try Facebook? There's a faststreamers group on there already, or you could start one for people who got through this year. My friend did that last year for a different company and found some housemates.
Well...I'll be looking for somewhere new quite soon as I'm moving out of this place!

That aside, the Facebook group is only accessible for people who are on the Fast Stream already - i.e. you need an email address that ends in .gsi.gov.uk or the equivelant.

I think that the Fast Stream in general could do a damn sight more to help people make the transition to London smoother for people but in the era of cutbacks, it's not going to happen anytime soon...
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That aside, the Facebook group is only accessible for people who are on the Fast Stream already - i.e. you need an email address that ends in .gsi.gov.uk or the equivelant.
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Haha well in that case someone has made a mistake in letting me join...
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Haha well in that case someone has made a mistake in letting me join...
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Prince Rhyus (and anyone else already working as a fast streamer), do you find you have made friends with quite a few other people on the fast stream or working in your department? Is it quite sociable? Or do you not get time for any of that?! I know a few people in London already but not that many, am a bit worried it might get lonely!
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(Original post by Angel_Cake)
Prince Rhyus (and anyone else already working as a fast streamer), do you find you have made friends with quite a few other people on the fast stream or working in your department? Is it quite sociable? Or do you not get time for any of that?! I know a few people in London already but not that many, am a bit worried it might get lonely!
Acquaintances you'll meet loads. Friends...it depends how lucky you get. The Fast Streamers in my department are a lovely bunch but I am aware that there is a culture of people separating their "work friends" from their "social friends" which is why I joined one of the organised social networks in London - the ones where they organise all the events for you and you sign up to the ones that you want, knowing that you'll be on the guestlist and people will be expecting you. I've signed up with Citysocialising and get to meet lots of new people, try out new things and all without the awkwardness of "speed dating."

Some departments have the "public school" feel to them - MoD and Foreign Office are the worst in terms of the negative stereotypes. The less fashionable departments (Communities and Local Government, Home Office) are often the more interesting ones as you are dealing with domestic policy that affects people on the ground. You also have a much greater ability to really influence policy in these departments too, whereas Foreign and Defence policy tend to be set in stone, whatever the adminstration.
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that's interesting to hear - i was talking to an ex-faststreamer a couple of weeks ago who was saying that the civil service is a very insular community so most people tend to socialise mainly with other civil servants.
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do none of you have them yet? mine was available last week straight after i got my result.
My FSAC report turned up online this afternoon sometime..
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that's interesting to hear - i was talking to an ex-faststreamer a couple of weeks ago who was saying that the civil service is a very insular community so most people tend to socialise mainly with other civil servants.
From my knowledge of the Civil Service, I think there are two different aspects to consider:

- many London based civil servants actually live quite far from London (i.e. home counties) and commute in - this means that socialisation opportunities with them may be limited. Having said that, I think there is a lot of socialising with civil servants at luinchtime and/or in the evenings (for those living in London)

- specifically for socialisation with other Faststreamers..

I think it depends on what department you join - for instance, (according to the open day) as the MoD is used to taking in 25 ppl at once.. the number allows them to run special courses and events just for them - which means you get to know the other Fast Streamers in your 'batch' quite well even if you work on different things within the department.

Other departments may recruit less year which means you would do most of your training with 'normal' staff instead.. though I think all departments probably try and get all their new fast streamers together at least once - even if its only at an event to meet the 'permanent secretary'.

I have been told in Defra there is also a mailing list and a forum - both of which are only available to Faststreamers (again I suspect other departments do something similar) and I think there is an annual civil service event to which they invite all new Faststreamers
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(Original post by Prince Rhyus)
Suspecting that there would be something of a backdoor into both the Fast Stream and the diplomatic service, I set out to get onto the Fast Stream but only after having "lived" a little and gained experience in other areas before committing myself to any employer.

4 years after graduating, I put my application through the "in-service" scheme and was fortunate enough to get onto the Fast Stream via that route - having got into the civil service as an admin officer some 2 years previously.

My line was to find out as much about the culture of the institution, get to know people who had been successful on it and learn from them - which is what I did and it paid off handsomely.

It's like with university - once you're in, it's much easier to move sideways and do secondments and placements than to go through the trench warfare that is the external path. (Only about 5% of people make it from the initial application stage to the Fast Stream itself.)

With the in-service scheme, you need the backing of line manager, head of HR and head of department on your initial form. If that passes the sift, you go through to an internal assessment from your parent department (which in most cases is a formality, but not always). Once past that stage you are through to the final assessment centre - in which statistically 50% of applicants pass.

See my posts on:
http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=430403

http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=427351

and

http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=420531

My big recommendation?

Don't go into the Fast Stream straight out of university unless you are specialising in a field - e.g. economics or statistics streams. Get some wider experience under you first - especially stuff that involves dealing with people.

You'll find it will pay off later.

All the best

PR
Very interesting post!
So basically you suggest to take a few different jobs (possibly relevant to the area of the civil service you are interested in) and then take a lower position in the civil service before applying?
I'm extremely interested in joining the civil service (based in London though, not Exeter). I mention Exeter cause I really don't care about the diplomatic side at all, I'm a scientist and would love to go into science policy. I'm hoping to get some work experience with the government's science think tank this summer, either in Whitehall or in Swindon.
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My FSAC report turned up online this afternoon sometime..

Mine still hasn't turned up. Suppose it doesn't matter really seeing as I know I'm in, but would be quite interesting to read it...
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Mine still hasn't turned up. Suppose it doesn't matter really seeing as I know I'm in, but would be quite interesting to read it...
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Mine still hasn't turned up. Suppose it doesn't matter really seeing as I know I'm in, but would be quite interesting to read it...
The strange thing is, mine was written in February immediately after my assessment centre, so I'm not sure what the excuse can be for not having them up a long time ago.
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The strange thing is, mine was written in February immediately after my assessment centre, so I'm not sure what the excuse can be for not having them up a long time ago.
Don't worry, once you're in you'll soon find a million and one excuses as to why things get delayed.
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Don't worry, once you're in you'll soon find a million and one excuses as to why things get delayed.
Too true. I heartily suggest familiarisation with "Yes Minister".
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