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V1057 – European Union Bill 2016, TSR Labour Party

European Union Bill 2016
An Act to retain equivalence with EU law after the UK leaves the European Union.

Whereas it is noted that law, culture and business have greatly developed since the previous enactment of the European Communities Act 1972.
And whereas it is understood that continued trade with Member States of the European Union shall be greatly facilitated by retaining equivalence unless and until there is a good reason not to do so.
And whereas provisions to update the existing Common and Statute Law of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland would take much parliamentary time and expense to enact:
Be it therefore enacted by the Queen’s most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Commons, in this present Parliament assembled, and by the authority of the same, as follows:—

1: Applicability of EU law

(1) Upon the event of the United Kingdom leaving the European Union, directly effective European Union law should be considered to remain effective in the UK if and insofar it is not subsequently contradicted.
(2) Repeal or amendment of any residual European Union law from this Act may be carried out through either primary or secondary legislation.
(3) Subsection (1) above should not be considered to affect the validity of any implementing legislation of European Union law with indirect effect.

2: Commencement, Short Title and Extent

(1) This Bill may be cited as the European Union Act 2016;
(2) This Bill shall extend to the United Kingdom; and
(3) Shall come into force immediately.


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EU law pervades much of our modern legal system. If, upon leaving the European Union, the law which the EU brings automatically to our legal system is repealed, in many areas of the law we will see an effective rollback as far as the early 70s, much of which is unfit for purpose in the modern era. Furthermore, the uncertainty about the operation of much of this to industries developed since would significantly damage British businesses, and the cost imposed to do a wholesale overhaul of the law very quickly would be huge.

It is worth noting that this leaves it extremely easy to change any law left over from the EU.
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Aye. Solid Bill, well done chaps.
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No, this is way too early and should not have been submitted until it was clear this would not be the case otherwise, instead we are likely going to get great disparity with RL very rapidly after brexit because of this bill.

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No, this is way too early and should not have been submitted until it was clear this would not be the case otherwise, instead we are likely going to get great disparity with RL very rapidly after brexit because of this bill.

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The wording of this Bill makes it so that Canon implements any subsequently enacted legislation contradicting EU law.
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The wording of this Bill makes it so that Canon implements any subsequently enacted legislation contradicting EU law.
And do you know what the even simpler and clearer way of doing it is? Don't.

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And do you know what the even simpler and clearer way of doing it is? Don't.

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We've discussed this, your assumptions about the competence of DaFox are wildly overstated.
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We've discussed this, your assumptions about the competence of DaFox are wildly overstated.
You mean the men holding the rubber stamps? Do you think their permanent secretaries are incompetent?

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You mean the men holding the rubber stamps? Do you think their permanent secretaries are incompetent?

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Whoever's dictating what they do publicly is obviously so.
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No, this issues should be left alone to allow the Canon Amendment to put TSR in line with real life. Introducing a different system on TSR to the system used in real life when withdrawing from the EU makes things more complicated.
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No, this issues should be left alone to allow the Canon Amendment to put TSR in line with real life. Introducing a different system on TSR to the system used in real life when withdrawing from the EU makes things more complicated.
So are we not ment to be trying to improve on RL
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So are we not ment to be trying to improve on RL
This isn't though, it speculatively legislating for something in at least two years, which may not even need legislating on. I guess I'll write a bill on how we will deal with the colonisation of the Proxima Centauri system
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This isn't though, it speculatively legislating for something in at least two years, which may not even need legislating on. I guess I'll write a bill on how we will deal with the colonisation of the Proxima Centauri system
Well if you have a good idea now that won't apply for a few years you want to give guidance to future generations.
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Well if you have a good idea now that won't apply for a few years you want to give guidance to future generations.
Odds of a great repeal before this would even properly come into force, almost certainly in line with canon? I would put it at at least 90%, so it's a case of a speculative bill that will likely be redundant and then won't even come into force properly.
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Odds of a great repeal before this would even properly come into force, almost certainly in line with canon? I would put it at at least 90%, so it's a case of a speculative bill that will likely be redundant and then won't even come into force properly.
Great repeals are about every 5 years so I doubt that unless yo.u don't think may will call brexit.
And just because it might be what the government RL decides to do doesn't mean we can't do it...
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Abstain, there's some parts of EU law which are OK and others which aren't; knowing what RL politicians are like, they'll change the good bits

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Great repeals are about every 5 years so I doubt that unless yo.u don't think may will call brexit.
And just because it might be what the government RL decides to do doesn't mean we can't do it...
Thanks for telling us the trick to boosting output: taking RL things passing through the commons that are certain to pass and pushing them through on here early.
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Thanks for telling us the trick to boosting output: taking RL things passing through the commons that are certain to pass and pushing them through on here early.
In fairness, it was only announced to be passing through the commons today.
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In fairness, it was only announced to be passing through the commons today.
No wonder you're unemployed if it wasn't obvious this was coming.
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No wonder you're unemployed if it wasn't obvious this was coming.
It was likely, not 100% though.
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