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    (Original post by edders)
    I will be giving out rep for the next few weeks to those people who construct grammatically sound sentences. Obviously, the better written and more stylish posts will be rewarded. Points for proper use of the colon, semicolon, apostrophe, hyphen, ellipsis etc.

    It is not long-winded posts that will be rewarded; posts that read well are what I'm looking for. As such, everyday practices such as elision (eg. "don't") are fine.

    It is individual posts that will be rewarded. Therefore consistently good grammar by the author is not required; it is simply necessary in the post you would like to reward.

    This is an ongoing process: as such there will be no single 'winner'. Indeed, we shall all be winners as we read examples of good writing!

    Please remember, the point of this exercise is not to criticise non-conventional grammar but to reward its good usage.

    Feel free to nominate people by posting links to their well-written posts here. Alternatively, simply copy and paste the post into your own posting here, stating who it was by and which thread it was in.
    I hope this will be a learning experience for us all.


    A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W, X, Y, Z.

    Is that good grammar? I have put in all the spaces and commas as well and I know the alphabet by heart
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    This thread is a joke....do you guys really care about rep that much?!!!
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    (Original post by crana)
    Just out of interest, is dyslexia actually considered to be a medical condition?

    Yes, because it requires a professional diagnosis in order for it to be recognised that you suffer from it.

    I was 'unlucky' in that I slipped through the net until my late teens...

    (Original post by Fluffy)
    Yes, because it requires a professional diagnosis in order for it to be recognised that you suffer from it.

    I was 'unlucky' in that I slipped through the net until my late teens...
    mm so did my boyfriend... but isn't the diagnosis usually made by like an educational psychologist? they don't have medical training do they?

    I always thought it was somewhat distinct as a "specific learning difficulty". I can't really think of anything medical about it... you don't have to see a doctor to be diagnosed... you don't need any medical treatment...it doesn't cause any medical complications etc..

    just seems strange to me for it to be a "medical condition".

    edit: it's in the DSM revised 3rd edition as "developmental reading disorder" apparently.
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    (Original post by crana)
    mm so did my boyfriend... but isn't the diagnosis usually made by like an educational psychologist? they don't have medical training do they?

    I always thought it was somewhat distinct as a "specific learning difficulty". I can't really think of anything medical about it... you don't have to see a doctor to be diagnosed... you don't need any medical treatment...it doesn't cause any medical complications etc..

    just seems strange to me for it to be a "medical condition".
    Actually, without a report from a Chartered Psychologist (as an adult at any rate), dyslexia can not be acknowledged. It is a condition also governed by the DDA (Disability Discrimination Act 1995).

    As an aside, obesity is defined as a medical condition!

    (Original post by Fluffy)
    Actually, without a report from a Chartered Psychologist (as an adult at any rate), dyslexia can not be acknowledged. It is a condition also governed by the DDA (Disability Discrimination Act 1995).

    As an aside, obesity is defined as a medical condition!
    yeah I did say an educational psychologist did I not?

    on the BDA website under special exam conditions and stuff it says:

    "The Boards will require a current assessment report from an Educational Psychologist or from a teacher with specialist qualifications for identifying assessing and teaching pupils with dyslexia."

    which I assume counts as dyslexia being acknowledged.

    either way these specialist teachers or educational psychologists aren't doctors....

    I dunno it's like: say you have 1 leg due to some kind of accident. You have no medical complications from this. You have a disability and should be covered under the DDA, but in my eyes you don't have a medical condition... does that make sense?

    edit: at least obesity makes sense because it does cause actual medical problems and can be treated medically... if that makes sense?
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    What are the rules for using which or that:
    You will se that I only had 6 days rental as opposed to the 7 which OR that I paid for.
    Thanks for any advice
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    (Original post by musicman)
    I feel that edders has no intention of giving anybody any rep for this, and is just enjoying seeing everyone try too hard.
    Yes, really amusing.
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    (Original post by zazy)
    Yes, really amusing.
    lol indeed, i'm not even going to try, i'll never get rep for good SPAG.
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    (Original post by tis_me_lord)
    lol indeed, i'm not even going to try, i'll never get rep for good SPAG.
    I doubt anyone will to be honest, even if they use perfect grammar. The thread's a farce to be quite frank.

    I therefore pose a question: how many people have been repped by edders since this thread began for good grammar? 0? I rest my case.
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    (Original post by musicman)
    I doubt anyone will to be honest, even if they use perfect grammar. The thread's a farce to be quite frank.

    I therefore pose a question: how many people have been repped by edders since this thread began for good grammar? 0? I rest my case.
    lol, he probably did rep somebody, we couldn't have a moddie making things up, could we?
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    (Original post by tis_me_lord)
    lol, he probably did rep somebody, we couldn't have a moddie making things up, could we?
    Though we could have a moddie pretending to give rep as a reward in order to improve the standard of people's posts now, couldn't we?
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    (Original post by musicman)
    Though we could have a moddie pretending to give rep as a reward in order to improve the standard of people's posts now, couldn't we?
    It's something a newbie would fall for or a rep thirsty oldie.
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    (Original post by zazy)
    It's something a newbie would fall for or a rep thirsty oldie.
    Am I the only peron who thinks this thread is incredibly snotty? I think there are many successful people in life who have never effectively grasped the use of the colon, semi-colon or hyphen. The whole think is purist nonsense. The hyphen and colon are becoming increasingly interchangable in print so why not accept this deviation instead of prescribing old school pedantry?
    It also alienates perfectly intelligent individuals who have dyslexia or a general devil-may-careness towards punctation - frankly, because they have better things to worry about, such as: getting their point across (something which can generally be achieved without perfect punctuation because one can generally deduce sense from context) and thinking about what they will be having for tea.
    The point is, language and it's components, e.g., spelling, punctuation and grammar, do and should, evolve. We should embrace this, rather than becoming pernickity stalwarts, striving endow to ourselves an with air of superiority and intellect just because we know how to use as bloody colon.
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    I would rep you for that post eleenia, but you used the apostrophe wrongly in "it's". Sorry!
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    (Original post by edders)
    I will be giving out rep for the next few weeks to those people who construct grammatically sound sentences. Obviously, the better written and more stylish posts will be rewarded. Points for proper use of the colon, semicolon, apostrophe, hyphen, ellipsis etc.

    It is not long-winded posts that will be rewarded; posts that read well are what I'm looking for. As such, everyday practices such as elision (eg. "don't") are fine.

    It is individual posts that will be rewarded. Therefore consistently good grammar by the author is not required; it is simply necessary in the post you would like to reward.

    This is an ongoing process: as such there will be no single 'winner'. Indeed, we shall all be winners as we read examples of good writing!

    Please remember, the point of this exercise is not to criticise non-conventional grammar but to reward its good usage.

    Feel free to nominate people by posting links to their well-written posts here. Alternatively, simply copy and paste the post into your own posting here, stating who it was by and which thread it was in.
    I hope this will be a learning experience for us all.

    Well done for not making a complete fool of yourself by putting edders' instead of edders's in your title. I just laugh when I see people do that, like when they type Jesus's instead of Jesus'. I would give you rep myself but unfortunately, it's too soon.

    (Original post by edders)
    I would rep you for that post eleenia, but you used the apostrophe wrongly in "it's". Sorry!
    I know that this thread is dedicated entirely to grammar but what about spelling as well because I have noticed from eleenia's post that there is a spelling mistake in her first sentence. Sorry to have pointed this out. I'm really fussy when it comes to SPG.
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    (Original post by crana)
    yeah I did say an educational psychologist did I not?

    on the BDA website under special exam conditions and stuff it says:

    "The Boards will require a current assessment report from an Educational Psychologist or from a teacher with specialist qualifications for identifying assessing and teaching pupils with dyslexia."

    which I assume counts as dyslexia being acknowledged.

    either way these specialist teachers or educational psychologists aren't doctors....

    I dunno it's like: say you have 1 leg due to some kind of accident. You have no medical complications from this. You have a disability and should be covered under the DDA, but in my eyes you don't have a medical condition... does that make sense?

    edit: at least obesity makes sense because it does cause actual medical problems and can be treated medically... if that makes sense?
    Who mentioned doctors?

    All I can go on is how the medical profession treat me! And that is as some one with a medical condition. Did you know dyslexia has a familial component to it? Several 'weak' genetic factors have already been identified. If the potential for the involvement of genetics is there, how can it be anythin other than a medical condition?

    While obesity can be caused by 1001 undelying conditions, in many it's just cos they like their food! what is medical about that? It's no different to dyslexia, as most of the time it's the result of phecked up neuronal signals. The brain doesn't tell the body it is full. With dyslexia the brain can not process/does not receive information quickly enough...
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    (Original post by edders)
    I would rep you for that post eleenia, but you used the apostrophe wrongly in "it's". Sorry!
    Shucks! MUST. TRY. HARDER.
    Comma after "post", capital on Eleenia. Why a comma before "but"? And surely "incorrectly" is more suitable?
    Is it a case of the blind leading the blind here?
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    I know that this thread is dedicated entirely to grammar but what about spelling as well because I have noticed from eleenia's post that there is a spelling mistake in her first sentence. Sorry to have pointed this out. I'm really fussy when it comes to SPG.
    But isn't that my point? I'm not going to consult a dictionary everytime I don't know how to spell a word on here because I'd rather just get typing and put my point accross. Why should someone's words lack authority or meaning because they've mispelt or use punctuation incorrectly? It just seems to be pathetically elitist. The point is, people make errors in punctuation, grammar and spelling all the time. Why beat ourselves up about it?
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    (Original post by eleenia)
    Shucks! MUST. TRY. HARDER.
    Comma after "post", capital on Eleenia. Why a comma before "but"? And surely "incorrectly" is more suitable?
    Is it a case of the blind leading the blind here?
    That's just a point of individual style, not improper grammar. Personally, I try to avoid overusing the comma: it looks like a vain attempt to use it properly when one has no idea what it's for.
 
 
 
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