What numerical grade is considered a 'strong' first?

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    Hi guys,

    I'm looking at application requirements for Physics PhDs and many of the top unis (Oxbridge, Durham, London etc) state that most successful applicants have a strong first.

    I'm in my final year of an MPhys and on a rough average of 74. My dissertation this year is worth 50% of my grade for the year, so I think I can maintain or push my average up to 75, 76 tops.

    Would this be considered in the realm of a 'strong' first? Or should I save my time and money if they're looking for 80+?

    PS: I know that grades are only one element of the application, but I don't want to fall at the first hurdle if I can help it.
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    (Original post by EuskaltelEuskadi)
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    Top 10% of a high ranking University, top 5% of a mid rank university, top 2% of a low rank university. The scale of grading, especially above about 70% is so institution specific that specifying a specific number is laden with risk.

    Strong really refers not to a specific grade, but an all round 'strong' package, ie not just outstanding grades, but also research proposal, references etc.
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    (Original post by threeportdrift)
    Top 10% of a high ranking University, top 5% of a mid rank university, top 2% of a low rank university. The scale of grading, especially above about 70% is so institution specific that specifying a specific number is laden with risk.

    Strong really refers not to a specific grade, but an all round 'strong' package, ie not just outstanding grades, but also research proposal, references etc.
    That's very helpful, thank you.
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    It will depend on your university (for example, my undergrad uni used a non-linear 20-point scale so you can't easily compare me to someone with a %), it really means how close you were to the 1st boundary at your university.

    On a side note:
    Did you "comfortably" get a first or was it a struggle? You should try to match yourself to the uni. If you killed yourself to get a 1st you probably won't be happy at an institution were they expect a "strong" first. If you comfortably achieved a first then that should show through in your whole application.
 
 
 
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