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Reply 60

bleugh.

Reply 61

charliehelyes
his parents keep saying its so good their son goes to oxbridge.


This in particular made me smile

Reply 62

The look of surprise people give me when I tell them that my sister is going to 'Brookes College, Oxford' is hilarious. She isn't exactly the sharpest tool in the box :P:

Reply 63

nikk

Indeed it is subjective, but given that Brookes achieved its status of 'best' new university through its position in the league tables, it would be no longer valid to continue to attribute it such status when it falls behind other new universities.


I'm not sure if it did just achieve it through its position in the league tables, actually. The brand name is a big factor (i.e. having a similar name to a prestigious university and being located in the same town). Correct me if I'm wrong, but Oxford Brookes also tends to have significantly higher entry requirements for many of its courses than Plymouth or any other former polytechnic, does it not?

Reply 64

Werty675
I've yet to come accross anyone from UWE who doen't say they go to Bristol. In fact, because people have become so used to this, when I say I go to Bristol they think I mean UWE as far more from my area go there.

Yes I know what you mean!

"And next year I'm doing a degree at Bristol whilst working for xxx-company."
"Ooh really? I have a friend who's going to Bristol after a gap year to do Aeronautical... didn't know they did day release courses."
**something suddenly clicks**

To be honest I have no problem with anyone who goes to Brookes or Anglia Ruskin. I worked on a play a few months ago where both of the two actors were from ARU and were jolly nice guys (I had no idea they went to ARU rather than Univ. Cambridge until I asked which college they were from!) And the chap I lived next door to in Cambridge last year has a girlfriend at ARU which is rather sweet... they got together before uni and live in the same town in real life.

Reply 65

Tomber
The look of surprise people give me when I tell them that my sister is going to 'Brookes College, Oxford' is hilarious. She isn't exactly the sharpest tool in the box :P:


since when was it termed college? it is technically "brookes university, oxford"

Reply 66

I believe on the Bristol subforum someone described university snobbery/rivalry as thus:

Teams or groups generally have a great rivalry with those above them, and only mild distain for those below them. Therefore whilst UWE students are all for the rivalry with Bristol, Bristol isn't really into that and prefers to go Oxford bashing. The only people who Oxford care about is Cambridge, and vice versa.

I think it's quite a logical way of looking at it, although sadly I can't say I've any experience of it (yet! *crosses fingers*)

Absolutely nothing wrong with going to an ex-poly whatsoever, but to apply to Brookes or Ruskin or UWE just so you can claim affiliation does seem a little .. disturbing!

Reply 67

Oh dear, the parents must be misled.

Reply 68

Dulac84
since when was it termed college? it is technically "brookes university, oxford"


No, it's technically "Oxford Brookes University". It's not Brookes university, it's Oxford Brookes.

I think it's so funny how uptight people are about the university. It is light years ahead of Plymouth. It has very good links with the city, some of the courses are incredibly well respected considering they come from an 'ex-poly'. I, personally, don't think it should be described as an 'ex-poly' anymore. It's not, it's a university in its own right and a very good one at that. It is MILES better than any other 'former poly'. The higher entry requirements reflect that. More than one course requires ABB, whereas the majority of Plymouth's are BBC.

Reply 69

thefish_uk
And the chap I lived next door to in Cambridge last year has a girlfriend at ARU which is rather sweet... they got together before uni and live in the same town in real life.


"Awww, bless the super intelligent Cambridge guy for putting up with the thick AR girl."

Sorry if you didn't intend it to come across like that, but I found that part of the post sounded incredibly patronising...Perhaps "rather sweet" was the wrong choice of words.

The 'Brookes College, Oxford' thing, whenever I've heard it, tends to be meant as a bit of a piss take, rather than people referring to the actually name of the uni (which is Oxford Brookes).

Reply 70

oxford brooks is an ex polytechnic isnt it. probly used to be called oxford polly but they thought theyd try to make it sound posh. while i have no idea about the standard of education at oxford brooks i can only imagine that it could not possibly be compared with the stronger oxford unis.

Reply 71

Jon_irving
oxford brooks is an ex polytechnic isnt it. probly used to be called oxford polly but they thought theyd try to make it sound posh. while i have no idea about the standard of education at oxford brooks i can only imagine that it could not possibly be compared with the stronger oxford unis.


I think your confused mate there is only 1 other university in Oxford.

Oxford University and Oxford Brookes are 2 completly seperate institutions that have nothing to do with one another! Oxford University is made up of a number of colleges that together form the university.

Reply 72

Jon_irving
oxford brooks is an ex polytechnic isnt it. probly used to be called oxford polly but they thought theyd try to make it sound posh. while i have no idea about the standard of education at oxford brooks i can only imagine that it could not possibly be compared with the stronger oxford unis.

After it ceased to be a polytechnic, dropping the 'polytechnic' bit in the name sort of made sense, though, no?:confused:

Reply 73

CoolSocks
I'm not sure if it did just achieve it through its position in the league tables, actually. The brand name is a big factor (i.e. having a similar name to a prestigious university and being located in the same town). Correct me if I'm wrong, but Oxford Brookes also tends to have significantly higher entry requirements for many of its courses than Plymouth or any other former polytechnic, does it not?

Well all I can say is that if it achieved the title of best new university simply because of the potential to confuse it with the real Oxford university, then it really doesn't mean very much at all.

All I was saying is that in real terms, as judged by numerous criteria, Plymouth is now rated significantly higher than Brookes. Your entitled to your opinion on league tables, but they are the facts. Having seen the investment Plymouth have been ploughing into the university over the past five years, I also have no doubt that the same will be the case when The Times tables are published for 2008.

Reply 74

Yes, but Plymouth will always be in Plymouth. It is a revolting place, you should see the building they're trying to put a Grade II Listed status on. Oxford is beautiful, I'd study there any day over Plymouth and it still is the best place for my course, better than Reading. League tables are a load of tosh which people bring up to back up their incredibly petty arguments.

Reply 75

I think Brookes suffers a bit from being dwarfed in quality by Oxford. They're actually a half-way decent Uni, albeit nowhere NEAR on the same level as Oxford. Look again in 10 years and they could reasonably be a top 20 Uni though.

Reply 76

nikk
Well all I can say is that if it achieved the title of best new university simply because of the potential to confuse it with the real Oxford university, then it really doesn't mean very much at all.

All I was saying is that in real terms, as judged by numerous criteria, Plymouth is now rated significantly higher than Brookes. Your entitled to your opinion on league tables, but they are the facts. Having seen the investment Plymouth have been ploughing into the university over the past five years, I also have no doubt that the same will be the case when The Times tables are published for 2008.


Prestige is all about perception though isn't it? The fact that Oxford Brookes has quite significantly higher entry requirements than all other former polytechnics including Plymouth supports the idea of Oxford Brookes being the most highly-regarded polytechnic, as more students of higher ability choose to go there. It is my opinion though, and I am referring to prestige, not the other indicators you allude to.

Reply 77

cabeca
Of course it's part of Oxbridge! Have you never been to Oxbridge or seen it on tv? It's just round the corner from Zanzebar and about 20mins on the train from the Garden of Eden.

You're right about Thames Valley; it's probably the strongest of all the Oxbridge colleges. It does a truly wonderful 'Burberry Studies' course where the completion rate is almost 45%....or is that the mortality rate?

But yes, to conclude, everything you said was correct. Any other questions that might lighten up my day?


Pwned


Yes it is, and London Metropolitain Uni is part of the U of London :wink:

But seriously, one of my friends thought Oxbridge was an actual university...the university of Oxbridge :rolleyes:

Reply 78

I live about 6 miles away from Oxford (and Brookes!) and Brookes is largely regarded as a joke around here - but only because it's a wannabe Oxford. It does a lot of "less academic" courses so it is good for a lot of people.

I'm not saying it's a bad Uni - just that's the opinion over here.

HOWEVER, in my 6th Form, i do French at Abingdon&Witney College, which is also where Oxford Brookes run one or two classes. Does that mean i go to Uni?! :wink: Or even Oxbridge?! :wink:

Reply 79

pomeroy784

HOWEVER, in my 6th Form, i do French at Abingdon&Witney College, which is also where Oxford Brookes run one or two classes. Does that mean i go to Uni?! :wink: Or even Oxbridge?! :wink:


haha...of course it does! omg, u haven't even finished a-levels and you're already in oxbridge? you're amazing!