Jeremy Corbyn "obliterated" by Telegraph article

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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...annihilated-t/

    What else can I say? Corbyn was "obliterated" (or is it "annihilated"?)
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    i am intrigued by "Summer Winterbottom"*

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    "This, at least, was the verdict given by the Corbynite faithful at the website "Evolve Politics" , with their analyst Summer Winterbottom declaring that the Tories have been routed*
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    (Original post by AlexanderHam)
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...annihilated-t/

    What else can I say? Corbyn was "obliterated" (or is it "annihilated"?)
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    Isn't this cultural appropriation, after all, the bongo is not "native" to Britain!
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    Telegraph doesn't like Corbyn or 'hard' left pressure/supporters groups. Not really news. Not like the Tories have never been unwarranted in their bullishness about a statement or response to a statement.
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    It doesn't surprise me that you read the torygraph :P
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    Ha. I found that article quite amusing. Well done.

    (Original post by Scottish Person)
    It doesn't surprise me that you read the torygraph :P
    The Telegraph is actually an objectively quality paper (as is the Times). Limiting yourself simply because you don't like it's conclusions only harms you in the long run (SNP supporters are not exactly unknown for preaching to echo chambers).

    Despite being a Tory i actually used to read the Guardian a lot because it was a quality paper and it helped me see things from a different perspective. Unfortunately, it has since employed Owen Jones and tilted itself towards far feminist and diversity mumbo jumbo.
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    Ridiculous article. That clearly isn't a bongo.
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    (Original post by Captain Haddock)
    Ridiculous article. That clearly isn't a bongo.
    That's a djembe, an African drum indigenous to every single UK comprehensive school music classroom for some reason.

    Also his bow hold when he is attempting to play the violin is just obnoxiously crude. I could teach a 5 year old in about 5 minutes how to hold a bow better than he is in that video.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    The Telegraph is actually an objectively quality paper (as is the Times). Limiting yourself simply because you don't like it's conclusions only harms you in the long run (SNP supporters are not exactly unknown for preaching to echo chambers).
    Well said. I'm a socialist but I get my information from all sources. I generally read the Guardian but I also read the Telegraph and the Daily Mail. I occasionally read articles from the Daily Express and Daily Mirror. I'm very keen on the FT, thanks to my student membership; my view is that the FT is the highest quality paper in the country ( despite coming from within the belly of the capitalist beast )

    There's something really boring, whiney and tiresome about the idea (usually pushed by stupid people with strong opinions) that the mere fact someone reads or cites a newspaper tells you everything about them.

    There's a really nasty, crude sensibility that seems to be on the rise that places ideological "purity" above all else. If you don't immediately agree 100% with that person then you're a Red Tory neo-Blairite traitor. It's as idiotic as "I've never kissed a Tory" nonsense; I've kissed plenty of Tories, in my experience they're better in the sack (better hygiene, less neuroses).

    The sign of a great mind is that you can hunt with the hounds and run with the hares; keep two sets of books, as it were. I don't limit my circle of friends nor my sources of reading based on what some shrieky hard left moron will think of it or say about it.
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    (Original post by Scottish Person)
    I'm a really boring, narrow-minded dogmatic little nitwit who has the unfortunate self-limiting tendency to only make friends with people who share my politics and only read publications that appeal to my prejudices... like the Canary or Wings Over Scotland.
    Fixed that for you. What a sad, limited little life you must have.
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    Lol you really don't like the guy do you
    Just leave the man alone
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    tory scum telegraph?
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    (Original post by AlexanderHam)
    Fixed that for you. What a sad, limited little life you must have.
    A tad harsh my brother, rise above it.

    It's just some guy on the Internet.
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    (Original post by biglad2k16)
    Lol you really don't like the guy do you
    Just leave the man alone
    Why do some people think this is some kind of impermissible personal grudge? It's politics. I'll try to explain it in a way that is straightforward.

    Corbyn is morally repugnant (see: the £20,000 he took, from a regime that lynches gay men, to shill for them on television), he is turning the labour party into a personality cult and ensuring it has almost no chance of winning government.

    As someone who has seen first hand how Conservative governments have introduced measures that really hurt poor and vulnerable people (like the ATOS work tests; see my note below**), I know just how profound are the consequences of whether we have a Conservative government or a Labour government. Corbyn and his supporters prefer to be ineffectual protesters, they'd rather stay in opposition permanently than make any sort of compromise with public opinion (and in their eyes, making even a 1% compromise to get into government means you're "no different to the Tories" and it "doesn't matter who is in power"... though interestingly they don't hold themselves to that standard)

    So yes, I dislike Corbyn immensely. And you ask "Just leave the man alone". I will cease to criticise him when he goes to the backbenches. It's not like I criticise him, he doesn't change anything he's doing and then I say, "Well, I've got that out of my system now. He doesn't need/deserve any more criticism". That would be very odd. As long as he continues to do stupid things, I will continue to criticise him.

    **At my legal internship, we had an advice session with a woman who'd had brain surgery to get it out. She's a vegetable now, not only pretty much incapable of understanding any complex concept, but is also emotionally fragile in the extreme. When we said she'd need to come back with a guardian/chaperone, she started wailing. I'm not talking about just crying, I mean wailing in a sound I had no idea humans could make. Almost predictably, she'd been found by ATOS to be fit for work. That is the kind of crap we see under Tory governments.
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    (Original post by Colonel Gadaffi)
    tory scum telegraph?
    Is the fact that something is reported in the Telegraph, or an opinion expressed in it, mean it is therefore wrong? Even a stopped clock is right twice day.

    To paraphrase Orwell, the fact it was in the Telegraph doesn't make it any less true. What matters is the underlying validity of the information.

    If you take the stance "Ugh, that's in the bad paper that says things I don't agree with. I better not read it otherwise I will have to learn about things that make me uncomfortable" then you will miss out on a lot of interesting, factual news items for the simple reason that no paper has enough journalists to cover every noteworthy fact in the world.
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    (Original post by zKlown)
    A tad harsh my brother, rise above it.

    It's just some guy on the Internet.
    Fair play, and sage advice.
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    (Original post by AlexanderHam)
    Fixed that for you. What a sad, limited little life you must have.
    Always hyperbole, outrage and theatrics on TSR just because I don't read the Telegraph much doesn't mean I'm a radical left winger that only reads the Morning Star.

    I actually read articles from the Guardian, the BBC, the Independent, Vox and others, even then I take everything I read with a pinch of salt.

    I'm not a corbynista either. I'm leaning towards SNP because at least they are effective and united against the Tories. Considering Jeremy Corbyn looks like at the moment he is not going anywhere, attacking him on virtually anything and everything looks silly when you want to see Labour in power or at least a strong opposition.

    It is ironically a naive fantasy to think you can defame and oust Jeremy, get his supports on your side, get the rest of the public to support new Labour and get in power. If you don't believe me look at how well other moderate left parties across the world are doing.
 
 
 
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