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Guys I'm in year 12 and looking to apply for law
My mocks start tomorrow (which my predicted grades will be based on and I'm absolutely screwed... argh)
On my last report I got 766 36 minus core points, which they'll probably predict me 2 for. So HOPEFULLY I'll be predicted 36-38 overall.
I guess I don't really have a specific question; have you guys got any advice etc for me?
My GCSEs are quite bad too... Not totally bad but not impressive at all. Sigh
My mocks start tomorrow (which my predicted grades will be based on and I'm absolutely screwed... argh)
On my last report I got 766 36 minus core points, which they'll probably predict me 2 for. So HOPEFULLY I'll be predicted 36-38 overall.
I guess I don't really have a specific question; have you guys got any advice etc for me?
My GCSEs are quite bad too... Not totally bad but not impressive at all. Sigh
Original post by fehlingssolution
Guys I'm in year 12 and looking to apply for law
My mocks start tomorrow (which my predicted grades will be based on and I'm absolutely screwed... argh)
On my last report I got 766 36 minus core points, which they'll probably predict me 2 for. So HOPEFULLY I'll be predicted 36-38 overall.
I guess I don't really have a specific question; have you guys got any advice etc for me?
My GCSEs are quite bad too... Not totally bad but not impressive at all. Sigh
My mocks start tomorrow (which my predicted grades will be based on and I'm absolutely screwed... argh)
On my last report I got 766 36 minus core points, which they'll probably predict me 2 for. So HOPEFULLY I'll be predicted 36-38 overall.
I guess I don't really have a specific question; have you guys got any advice etc for me?
My GCSEs are quite bad too... Not totally bad but not impressive at all. Sigh
IMO, just focus on doing your best for revision and exams right now. ☺️
Getting the best possible results (mock or not) should be your priority now, don't think too much about courses or unis yet, applications don't open until September anyway and you will have the whole summer to worry about that. 🙈 All the best 💪🏻💪🏻
Original post by gks1623
Guys please help!!! I can't decide between LSE or UCL as my firm - I've visited both and I am still undecided. Which is better?
I was in the same dilemma, and I chose LSE after going to visit both because i just felt more comfortable and inspired (cheesy) there.. I think it's a feeling thing as they're essentially the same in terms of most things, imo. You can meet students from every uni in London anywhere, use either library because they're both in the UoL, and I think even take a module at the other one (not sure about this). Whatever feels best!
Original post by gks1623
Guys please help!!! I can't decide between LSE or UCL as my firm - I've visited both and I am still undecided. Which is better?
Both are excellent and will provide you with top notch teaching and a very respectable degree with which to launch your legal (or other) career. In my opinion the biggest dividing line between UCL and LSE is the choice between a larger, multi faculty university (UCL) where you will be mixing with medics, architects etc or a smaller specialist university where everybody is more politically aware and engaged. As I'm very switched on when it comes to politics and love debating these issues, LSE was a no brainer.
Also, you have plenty of time to firm either uni. I'd suggest thinking about it as long as you can.
I'm STILL waiting for Bristol to get back. They have 10 days. Anyone else in this biazarre position?
Original post by Ed.....
I'm STILL waiting for Bristol to get back. They have 10 days. Anyone else in this biazarre position?
Hundreds of people will be - and at all other Unis for a whole range of subjects.
Its tough, but just remember that you have not been rejected (hundreds will have been) and therefore you are still in with a chance of an offer.
Update: Edinburgh rejection Just changed to an offer for 3 As 😇
Hi everyone just thought I'd share my friends offers and results. I hope the following information is helpful.
CP:
IB: 45
Did not take O levels
LNAT: 27
Offers from: Kings, UCL, LSE, Durham
Rejected from Oxford post interview
TT:
IB: 44
Did not take O levels
LNAT:24
Offers from: Kings, UCL, Bristol
Rejected from: Oxford, LSE
KN:
IB: 44
LNAT: 25
Did not take O levels
Offers from: Bristol, Kings, UCL, Nottingham, Durham
ST:
IB: 44
LNAT: 29
O levels: 5A1s, 3A2s
Offers from: Nottingham,Warwick, Durham, Bristol, Queen Mary
YSM:
A Levels: 90 RP , AAA AAA
Did not take O levels
LNAT: 32
Offers: Oxford, Warwick, Durham, Bristol, Nottingham
IR:
A levels: 88.75 RP , AAA AAB
O levels: 6A1s 2A2s 1C6
LNAT: 30
Offers: Kings UCL LSE Queen Mary
Rejected by Oxford
We were trying to establish some kind of a pattern to see what the different schools valued in their students but results were inconclusive since the sample space was limited. We are all international applicants.
CP:
IB: 45
Did not take O levels
LNAT: 27
Offers from: Kings, UCL, LSE, Durham
Rejected from Oxford post interview
TT:
IB: 44
Did not take O levels
LNAT:24
Offers from: Kings, UCL, Bristol
Rejected from: Oxford, LSE
KN:
IB: 44
LNAT: 25
Did not take O levels
Offers from: Bristol, Kings, UCL, Nottingham, Durham
ST:
IB: 44
LNAT: 29
O levels: 5A1s, 3A2s
Offers from: Nottingham,Warwick, Durham, Bristol, Queen Mary
YSM:
A Levels: 90 RP , AAA AAA
Did not take O levels
LNAT: 32
Offers: Oxford, Warwick, Durham, Bristol, Nottingham
IR:
A levels: 88.75 RP , AAA AAB
O levels: 6A1s 2A2s 1C6
LNAT: 30
Offers: Kings UCL LSE Queen Mary
Rejected by Oxford
We were trying to establish some kind of a pattern to see what the different schools valued in their students but results were inconclusive since the sample space was limited. We are all international applicants.
Original post by Pancakes>waffles
We were trying to establish some kind of a pattern to see what the different schools valued in their students but results were inconclusive since the sample space was limited. We are all international applicants.
We were trying to establish some kind of a pattern to see what the different schools valued in their students but results were inconclusive since the sample space was limited. We are all international applicants.
Since all of these Unis will have read Personal Statements/References and marked your LNAT essays differently, there wont be 'a pattern'.
Original post by Ed.....
I'm STILL waiting for Bristol to get back. They have 10 days. Anyone else in this biazarre position?
Also haven't heard from them. It's s bit of a joke now
Hi everyone, I have an offer to study law at Nottingham but am doubtful I will get the grades!!! I need AAA but will probably get abb - does anyone know how lenient they are on results day or do they know anyone who got in with much lower grades for this course? Thank you in advance!!
Original post by Johnsmith345
Hi everyone, I have an offer to study law at Nottingham but am doubtful I will get the grades!!! I need AAA but will probably get abb - does anyone know how lenient they are on results day or do they know anyone who got in with much lower grades for this course? Thank you in advance!!
Same! My insurance is Bristol who want ABB from me (and have actually moved up to 7th or so in the law rankings), I am disappointed not get a year abroad as a part of my course with my other offers but hopefully I can acquire one at Nottingham/Bristol. I am not sure how lenient they are but ABB might be pushing it, AAB they could perhaps but it all depends on how everyone else does and their places!
All the best
Original post by Chichaldo
Same! My insurance is Bristol who want ABB from me (and have actually moved up to 7th or so in the law rankings), I am disappointed not get a year abroad as a part of my course with my other offers but hopefully I can acquire one at Nottingham/Bristol. I am not sure how lenient they are but ABB might be pushing it, AAB they could perhaps but it all depends on how everyone else does and their places!
All the best
All the best
Was this a contextual offer? I know some people at Nottingham currently who got abb and are in their first year which gives me hope however I do not know the extent of their circumstances and I just they take me if I don't get the grades
Original post by Johnsmith345
Was this a contextual offer? I know some people at Nottingham currently who got abb and are in their first year which gives me hope however I do not know the extent of their circumstances and I just they take me if I don't get the grades
I got a contextual offer from Bristol for ABB but not Nottingham, there offer stands at AAA for me. I would only rest assured on ABB if that's the offer they gave. Can always ring them on the day to argue your case if you got AAB or something
Original post by Chichaldo
Same! My insurance is Bristol who want ABB from me (and have actually moved up to 7th or so in the law rankings), I am disappointed not get a year abroad as a part of my course with my other offers but hopefully I can acquire one at Nottingham/Bristol. I am not sure how lenient they are but ABB might be pushing it, AAB they could perhaps but it all depends on how everyone else does and their places!
All the best
All the best
Just some friendly advice here --
You will struggle immensely if you get into Bristol with ABB. This is from experience, having discussed this with people who got into the uni with contextual offers (AAB, as of last year).
I know it seems tempting, but it is a facade by the uni in attempt to loosen its 'private kids' legacy.
You should of course do whatever you think is best for you, and is of course rather anecdotal, but many people have fallen into this trap, so thought I'd perhaps let you know just for the sake of it.
Original post by _Fergo
I know it seems tempting, but it is a facade by the uni in attempt to loosen its 'private kids' legacy.
I know it seems tempting, but it is a facade by the uni in attempt to loosen its 'private kids' legacy.
I think you are being extremely patronising. Many contextual offer applicants do exceptionally well at Bristol and many other Universities who make such lower grade offers. They not only get good degrees but also contribute to the life of the University in many ways that the 'private kids' with all their privileges do not. This is why these schemes exist - to recruit good students from all backgrounds, not as either a charitable gesture or, as you seem to suggest, a mindless PR exercise.
Original post by returnmigrant
I think you are being extremely patronising. Many contextual offer applicants do exceptionally well at Bristol and many other Universities who make such lower grade offers. They not only get good degrees but also contribute to the life of the University in many ways that the 'private kids' with all their privileges do not. This is why these schemes exist - to recruit good students from all backgrounds, not as either a charitable gesture or, as you seem to suggest, a mindless PR exercise.
Have you studied for the degree? As I said, it is anecdotal, but in my experience with discussions it's almost universally true. There may be a couple or so students with AAB who did well, but they are also almost certainly in the minority.
With ABB, it will be a nightmare. I do not intend to be patronising, I just want to ensure other people are realistic. Everyone gets wowed by this (rightly so called) facade, that they forget the underpinning considerations necessary to dedicate oneself to three years of study.
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To all those of you with contextual offers (from whateve University), worry not. Universities do not knowingly invite calamity. No University will ever set up a system of accepting students where they expect them to fail. The reality is that for many people from low performing state schools, the environment of University allows them to flourish in ways even they didnt think were possible - and its wonderful to see this happen.
There will always be those students (from all backgrounds) who arent up to the job, but in my experience this happens just as often with those with supposedly stellar A level grades as those without. The point is that Uni is different - it isnt an extension of A levels - and for some people that gear change is difficult, regardless of their background. The only difference with contextual offer students is often self-confidence - that they do not have the same sense of inbuilt certainty or self-belief as those from the more privileged backgrounds - and once this is helped/reassured they do just as well as the main cohort. Equally I have taught many A/A* students who cannot string a sentence together or think for themselves. High A level grades are certainly not an indicator of superior intellectual prowess or of academic potential!
Universities make these offers because they want a diverse community. Meeting all sorts of people while you are at Uni is part of the Uni experience - for everyone. Its challenges assumptions and intolerance, it allows you to experience the existence of opinions/attitudes/lives other than your own, and to accept these with awareness and maturity. The other reason Universities make contextual offers is because Universities also believe in bright students - and they know that there is no direct correlation between level 3 qualifications and degree classification. This is because firstly A levels test cram-learning and not intellectual reasoning, and secondly because we all mature intellectually in different ways, and on different pathways.
Many grammar and private school students do not see this. Instead they claim it is unfair that someone got in with lower grades than they did. I could now start a discussion about the inequities of selective schooling but lets save that for another day. Many also find it difficult to take on board that someone with lower grades has been 'allowed in' - that somehow this diminishes the worth of their own AAA grades, as this is how they have been taught to value achievement and to value themselves - the 'I'm better than you' mentality (you can see this on TSR with the mindless discussions about Uni rankings and League Tables; its as though they are ranking themselves not actually the University).
In short, I urge contextual offer applicants to accept the opportunities you have been offered. Grab them with both hands. We want you. You will surprise yourselves with what you accomplish. Your personal journey through University will be far more meaningful and life changing for you than for many of the other students around you. You will get the support you need and you will achieve. Push that Firm button now.
There will always be those students (from all backgrounds) who arent up to the job, but in my experience this happens just as often with those with supposedly stellar A level grades as those without. The point is that Uni is different - it isnt an extension of A levels - and for some people that gear change is difficult, regardless of their background. The only difference with contextual offer students is often self-confidence - that they do not have the same sense of inbuilt certainty or self-belief as those from the more privileged backgrounds - and once this is helped/reassured they do just as well as the main cohort. Equally I have taught many A/A* students who cannot string a sentence together or think for themselves. High A level grades are certainly not an indicator of superior intellectual prowess or of academic potential!
Universities make these offers because they want a diverse community. Meeting all sorts of people while you are at Uni is part of the Uni experience - for everyone. Its challenges assumptions and intolerance, it allows you to experience the existence of opinions/attitudes/lives other than your own, and to accept these with awareness and maturity. The other reason Universities make contextual offers is because Universities also believe in bright students - and they know that there is no direct correlation between level 3 qualifications and degree classification. This is because firstly A levels test cram-learning and not intellectual reasoning, and secondly because we all mature intellectually in different ways, and on different pathways.
Many grammar and private school students do not see this. Instead they claim it is unfair that someone got in with lower grades than they did. I could now start a discussion about the inequities of selective schooling but lets save that for another day. Many also find it difficult to take on board that someone with lower grades has been 'allowed in' - that somehow this diminishes the worth of their own AAA grades, as this is how they have been taught to value achievement and to value themselves - the 'I'm better than you' mentality (you can see this on TSR with the mindless discussions about Uni rankings and League Tables; its as though they are ranking themselves not actually the University).
In short, I urge contextual offer applicants to accept the opportunities you have been offered. Grab them with both hands. We want you. You will surprise yourselves with what you accomplish. Your personal journey through University will be far more meaningful and life changing for you than for many of the other students around you. You will get the support you need and you will achieve. Push that Firm button now.
Original post by returnmigrant
To all those of you with contextual offers (from whateve University), worry not. Universities do not knowingly invite calamity.
In short, I urge contextual offer applicants to accept the opportunities you have been offered. Grab them with both hands.
In short, I urge contextual offer applicants to accept the opportunities you have been offered. Grab them with both hands.
🙌. 🙌 .🙌 .🙌 .🙌. 🙌. 🙌.
I received a lower offer of ABB myself (probably contextual) and my predicted grades are AAA and it doesn't make me any less worthy of a place. It's a shame people are making those with contextual offers believe that they will somehow struggle to cope with a degree more than others. Perhaps this is one of the reasons why people are reluctant to apply to some universities in the first place.
Advice anyone? Manchester or Leeds as firm. Was leaning towards Manchester until recent league tables came out??
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