Official Law Offer 2017

I have applied to Oxford, LSE, UCL, KCL and QMUL. I think I did very badly for my LNAT, so definitely not putting high hopes on the LNAT Universities Also, I heard that yesterday was the first batch of LSE rejection. When did you submit your application?

LSE are already rejecting people? woah .-.

I have applied to Oxford, LSE, UCL, KCL and QMUL. I think I did very badly for my LNAT, so definitely not putting high hopes on the LNAT Universities Also, I heard that yesterday was the first batch of LSE rejection. When did you submit your application?

I'm quite scared about the LNAT too, because I have no idea how I did! :/

Yeah, I heard about that too, and it's stressing me out a bit.

Submitted mine on September 20th

Congrats on QMUL btw! (You're the one who got an unconditional offer, right?)

Cheer up! I'm sure you will be able to work things well ! Yeap and thanks, i'm the one who has gotten the offer from QMUL. Sorry to ask, are you a Malaysian? Because you sound like one haha

Yeap although I have yet to receive a rejection, I heard this news from some of my friends. The first batch of rejection is usually issued on the basis that the grades do not meet the basic entry requirements or more possibly, the personal statement is not written in the favour of LSE.

Did you apply to LSE for LLB as well?

Hmm, and if you're an aspiring law student, why didn't you respond to our argument that LSE isn't an LNAT Uni? You seem to be conveniently ignoring this point yet trumpeting others that supposedly support your claim. Of course there's a minimum LNAT score to be hit. You can't get 5 for your LNAT and pray to get an offer. Just like how you can't write complete garbage on your PS and hope they'll look at other parts of your application. What I'm trying to say is that for borderline cases (ie. Near or below the Uni cutoff score) they will look at other parts of your application as well.

I'm curious: are you currently a law student?if so, which Uni are you in? Because it sure isn't LSE

Thanks for the info! Looks like it's going to be a long wait then. Durham's my first choice so I really hope I get an offer from them. I've heard it can be as late as March...

I applied 2 days ago to Leeds (access), Newcastle (partners), Liverpool, Leicester and Northumbria. Only problem is I am predicted ABC and an A in the EPQ. I believe i have a strong personal statement with loads of work exp so what do you guys think ? Automatic rejection or is there still hope for me ?
+ Ive had acknowledgements from Newcastle, Leicester and Northumbria.

There's definitely hope because you have work experience (is it Law related?) and the schemes are there to help. It depends on your GCSE results too and because Law is really really competitive, it also depends on what A-Level subjects you are taking

Haven't got acknowledgement emails from Durham or Manchester, anyone else?

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I did not have to compose this post but I want to because this forum has helped me a lot albeit only a handful of forum members (i'm thinking 4 or 5 people? )

I scored 18 in my first LNAT, LSE rejected me, I called them up, the person said sorry to me and to apply elsewhere so I took a gap year and scored 35 for my second LNAT.

You don't have to believe me. But i repeat this again for those who are unaware of this but are willing to hear me out and then do their own research before deciding if i'm speaking sense or not.

Personal statements don't matter one bit if you're applying to LNAT unis. If you score below a certain score which the LNAT uni has agreed by itself within its department to be the minimum mark for that application year then all applicants that have scored below that mark will be automatically rejected. You will be notified of that rejection via the personal portal (separate from UCAS) which all LNAT unis will create for you, provide the user ID and password to you for you to log in. It is in this portal where you can ask the tutor questions, they will reply to you or send them PDF copies of your results etc. Do a simple search on this forum and you will see so many who score 10, 11, 13, 15 etc for the LNAT and the LNAT unis rejected them outright. We will never ever know what the cut-off mark for the LNAT for that year is for a particular uni unless a Freedom of Information request is made.

Look at this link below. UCL first said that there is no benchmark score for the LNAT but then further down it says 'The average LNAT score for offer holders for 2014-15 was 27 (to the nearest whole number). For 2015-16 it was 28 (to the nearest whole number).
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/lnat_statistics_3

Admission tutors may say publicly that the entire LNAT and the personal statement is looked at as a whole. But i was told on good authority by those who know that the essay component of the LNAT doesn't count for anything. It's only the LNAT MCQ that matters. The function of the LNAT is to filter those who cannot think logically from those who can, under timed exam conditions. Although I disagree with this thinking behind the unis that have adopted the LNAT, it's their decision and you have to abide by it. If you had bothered to do a simple search on this forum, you will see many students from the past as far back as 2011 who have shared their horrible experiences such as computer malfunction, noisy candidates in the room, failure to prepare for the LNAT MCQ and so much more. All of them were rejected by the LNAT unis and they had to settle for the Russell Group unis.

Anyways for those who scored above the mark set by the uni for the LNAT score, they will then be given conditional offers they must meet in order to gain a place for the law degree. On results day if you miss the offer given, then your conditional offer will lapse but it depends on how much you have missed the offer by. So you will have to contact the admissions team in that uni and practically beg them to take you in. Chances of this are virtually slim.

The conditional offers that were lapsed will then be tallied so that when Clearing comes along, these places will be given to deserving students who FIRSTLY scored high for the LNAT and have done well for the exams by scoring AAA or A*AA or A*AB. Once the Clearing exercise is over, places will also be given to those who have exceeded their offers and wish to go to a better uni.

For example if Joe scored 35 on the LNAT and A*AA and his firm choice was Nottingham who had asked for AAA, he would now want to apply to LSE instead which he can now do so under Adjustment. Once again when he calls up LSE, the admission tutor will first ask him how much he scored for the LNAT and then his A level grades. (If he did not do the LNAT then he will have to take a gap year and do the LNAT and reapply the following year.)

But suppose Joe did the LNAT and scored 35 on it, he will then have to email the LSE admissions team and they will make him an offer over the phone. Joe will then call up his firm choice Nottingham to release him, he will call up LSE to inform them that Bristol has released him, LSE will then make an offer to him via ucase and he will then accept it. This entire exercise in this paragraph is normally done within a few hours.

Joe will not be silly to ask Nottingham to release him unless his place at LSE has been confirmed. Once Joe gets a place at LSE, his place at Nottingham will then be given to someone else who for example had applied to Bristol with an LNAT score of 30 and A*AA but now wants to go to a better uni. So the cycle is such where most people who exceeded their offers will want to go to a better uni. There will be some who are contented with the firm choice because he stays near that uni or he's someone who has lived near that uni all his life and doesn't want to relocate elsewhere etc.

So as a recap for those applying to LNAT unisLower ranked unis will be lenient on both results days and during Clearing because they are heavily undersubscribed. You'll have to monitor a couple of the online newspapers who will update available places on courses in real-time.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/clearing/

http://www.independent.co.uk/student/into-university/clearing/clearing-2016-what-do-do-after-a-level-gcse-exam-results-applying-to-university-a7174126.html

It doesn't matter if you've stated in your personal statement that you've done charity work or helped out at the food bank or gone out to the real world to stack shelves at Waitrose. Ace the LNAT and everything will fall into place. They have been cases in the past where people scored 13 in the LNAT and got a place at LSE but it's only hearsay. It may very well be true but those cases should number very few.

what about the grades you apply with? If one applies with AAB/AAA to an A*AA uni and gets a high lnat score would it be possible to get an offer?

The LSE do not see your LNAT, at all. They wouldn't ask you for your LNAT results. There is no option to send them your LNAT results.

That being said, there is some truth in what you're saying. There will generally be an LNAT score they (actual LNAT unis) think is adequate, and it's easy for them to reject anybody below that. However, it's also worth considering the role that GCSEs and (now, perhaps to a lesser extent) AS results play. I'm sure somebody who achieved 24 in a year where 26 was the average, but achieved 13A*s at a poor state school would be in for a chance when it comes to getting an offer.