Live stream if anyone wanst to watch it.
Very dirty debate -- not about the issues*
Trump's definitely winning
the moderators have been horrendous today
Trump is murdering her, I love Trump.
Harder to gauge than the first debate tbh, in part because there's been much less debate. For the first half or so, they completely ignored the questions and talked about whatever they liked. Betting markets have moved only one point, so looking like a draw. Possibly a very narrow Trump win, but given the current state of the polls and especially the tape, that's not nearly enough for him.
I didn't see it all but from what I saw I would say trump
Terrible first quarter. Personal insults, nothing more.
Picked up on the 30 minute mark though.
Trump came back with a sting from the first debate, and I really do think put Clinton on edge at times.
A lot of waffling from both candidates too.
Overall, Trump won.
I'd say Clinton did simply because she could answer questions on policy without using the words like 'very' and 'incredible' or the phrase 'worst in history'. The fact that she could somewhat answer some questions in the 2 minutes instead of veering 180º off topic (not to say she didn't do it too but it wasn't as often) was nice. They're both utter disasters but Trump acted like a temperamental child with all his interrupting and talking back to the moderators. Kinda of incredible from a 70 year old man....these next 4 years are gonna be a low point for Americans imo
Well the odds the bookies are giving seems to imply the bookies believe trump won that one. not that the bookies back trump they don't they strongly back Clinton just they moved more towards trump then before.
Mind you the bookies have got it wrong on politics so many times so not sure that counts for much.
Guess I was wrong - instant polls suggesting Clinton won after all. That said, I wouldn't expect much polling change - any move to Clinton will more likely be the effect of the Trump tape rather than her debate performance.
I think it was hard viewing. I didn't like the animosity or the bullying.
Trump is a disgrace.
However, Clinton was off form yesterday and let Donald dictate the tempo. She was far too defensive, yet that's what happens when you can't criticise him for being lewd towards women when her own husband has had rape allegations made about him during his time in office.
Overall, a marginal "not-defeat" for Trump.
But he didn't appeal to any swing voters because he didn't actually reveal much about his policies. Like her or not, Clinton is still the only candidate who knows what she is talking about.
Brutally right now the expectation is so low for Trump now, that short of going full frothing at the mouth crazy, he will beat expectations.