A161 – End-Of-Term By-Elections Amendment Watch

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A161 – End-Of-Term By-Elections Amendment
Proposed by: Nigel Farage MEP MP (UKIP)
Seconded: hazzer1998 MP (UKIP), Jammy Duel MP (Con), mobbsy91 MP (Con), TheDefiniteArticle MP (Lab), Unown Uzer MP (UKIP)


In the Guidance Document under (5) MP Activity & Voting Reviews add;

(6) If a by-election should happen within four weeks of the start of a General Election the Speaker must delay the by-election to start after the General Election results have been announced.
(7) The Speaker shall choose which seats to place for by-election from all of the seats the party won at the General Election.

If passed, this amendment will delay the by-election called by the Speaker on the 10/10/2016.


Speaker's note: It is not permitted to propose an amendment to overturn a decision already made by the Speaker, or otherwise to include implementation instructions outside the text to be added, so the final sentence here is void.
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Ummmm, I give Nigel the permission to share where I consented to second this amendment, assuming he can find it.
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Nay it's a new term so all seats will have just been up for election.
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(Original post by Saracen's Fez)
A161 – End-Of-Term By-Elections Amendment
Proposed by: Nigel Farage MEP MP (UKIP)
Seconded: hazzer1998 MP (UKIP), Jammy Duel MP (Con), mobbsy91 MP (Con), TheDefiniteArticle MP (Lab), Unown Uzer MP (UKIP)


In the Guidance Document under (5) MP Activity & Voting Reviews add;

(6) If a by-election should happen within four weeks of the start of a General Election the Speaker must delay the by-election to start after the General Election results have been announced.
(7) The Speaker shall choose which seats to place for by-election from all of the seats the party won at the General Election.

If passed, this amendment will delay the by-election called by the Speaker on the 10/10/2016.


Speaker's note: It is not permitted to propose an amendment to overturn a decision already made by the Speaker, or otherwise to include implementation instructions outside the text to be added, so the final sentence here is void.
There is nothing in the Constitution to say an amendment cannot overturn a Speaker's decision to help the Speaker's own party. The amendment passing can be treated as a vote against the Speaker by the majority of MPs who are unhappy with a Speaker's decision. If the Speaker is going to go against the will of the MPs, the Speaker is breaking the trust MPs place in the Speaker to represent them.
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I've stated my position, there should just be a limit on the seats they can win of one less than those they would've won.
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(Original post by Jammy Duel)
Ummmm, I give Nigel the permission to share where I consented to second this amendment, assuming he can find it.
I remember you stating months ago you were going to take my position of seconding anything.
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Nay, obviously not. Also undecided about whether the final sentence is valid. I think it would be valid without a doubt if this were an amendment to the Constitution, much more interesting as regards a GD amendment.
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(Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
I remember you stating months ago you were going to take my position of seconding anything.
Fish it out, pretty sure I didn't because that means seconding utter **** that is lazily written like this.

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Fish it out, pretty sure I didn't because that means seconding utter **** that is lazily written like this.

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With all of the **** you post in the MHoC I do not have enough hours to spend looking for your post.
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(Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
With all of the **** you post in the MHoC I do not have enough hours to spend looking for your post.
The search function is your friend, unless what you're searching for doesn't exist

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(Original post by Jammy Duel)
The search function is your friend, unless what you're searching for doesn't exist

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The TSR search feature is not the best, or the comment could have been posted on Skype, however, it does not matter because you are being facetious.
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Voting Reviews start and finish with every Parliament, so I don't agree with carrying over an associated by-election from one Parliament to another.

I don't think the Speaker should pick and choose seats to remove based on voting performance from the previous parliament. Voting performance is reset by each general election.
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(Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
The TSR search feature is not the best, or the comment could have been posted on Skype, however, it does not matter because you are being facetious.
If it was on Skype that makes it even easier to find, and your unwillingness to search doesn't change the fact that I do not want to second garbage, certainly not without consultation first

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(Original post by Jammy Duel)
If it was on Skype that makes it even easier to find, and your unwillingness to search doesn't change the fact that I do not want to second garbage, certainly not without consultation first

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Then ask for your name to be removed, stop complaining, and start acting like the grown adult you are, not a petulant child.
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(Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
Then ask for your name to be removed, stop complaining, and start acting like the grown adult you are, not a petulant child.
I offered you the opportunity to share my consent and instead you decided to go for this. Same old Nigel.

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Nay. I would support an amendment which prohibited by-elections taking place 2 weeks or less before parliament expires but not this.
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If it wasn't so brazenly partisan I'd consider it, although its farcical, why not apply to the previous roll call as well, that punishment was minimal.

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I think that this should take effect from the start of the next Parliament.
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