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    so all of the negativity towards lse on this forum i took lightly until i got talking to my friend who just finished economic history there. He said exactly the same things that were being said here, terrible teachers and the whole international student 'clique' thing , the arrogance of people there, and no actual guidance on the course just rushing through content.

    even though it is a world class university, does that really matter when you could go to a really good university such as UCL and have a great time like my sister is doing
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    LSE is better than UCL though
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    I didnt realise there was negative comments about lse?
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    OP, please google "selection bias".
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    LSE is what you make of it. I'm a first year student there and I can tell you that if you are seriously committed to academia, you will thrive here. It's a community of some of the most rigorous minds in the world (for social sciences and humanities) and you'll be lucky to be taught by professors and teachers who are world leaders in their subjects (You might even end up being taught by the same person who wrote your textbook!)

    Yes the workload is pretty tough, but what do you expect? This is a top flight world Uni.

    I never get all these negative comments about the LSE, complaining about the workload is like buying a Lamborghini and complaining that it's too fast
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    I think you have to think really carefully about whether it's the place for you and if you want to study in London. For me it wasn't worth it and I didn't like being at uni in London at all. But some people really love it, especially people from other parts of the UK. You won't necessarily be happy by default there.
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    It depends hugely on the person. Some people can't handle the workload and it can be a bit cliquey at times. Some people don't do well in London. Some people are better off at other universities.
    I've only been here a few weeks, but personally I LOVE being in London, it's such a beautiful city, and I will admit that it does seem very cliquey in certain aspects, it's easy enough to make friends with people (though you could feel lonely for a while as you get to know people.) Also, the workload is big, it is tough and I struggle with it, but what else can you expect from the LSE, it's a top university!
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    (Original post by p0laris)
    I think you have to think really carefully about whether it's the place for you and if you want to study in London. For me it wasn't worth it and I didn't like being at uni in London at all. But some people really love it, especially people from other parts of the UK. You won't necessarily be happy by default there.
    An excellent point - people tend to forget the day-to-day annoyances of the capital (not least the sheer amount of time taken moving around and the cost of everything).

    (Original post by smegsxo)
    It depends hugely on the person. Some people can't handle the workload and it can be a bit cliquey at times. Some people don't do well in London. Some people are better off at other universities.
    I've only been here a few weeks, but personally I LOVE being in London, it's such a beautiful city, and I will admit that it does seem very cliquey in certain aspects, it's easy enough to make friends with people (though you could feel lonely for a while as you get to know people.) Also, the workload is big, it is tough and I struggle with it, but what else can you expect from the LSE, it's a top university!
    Glad to hear that you're liking it here - I remembered your thread that was very apprehensive from a while back
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    (Original post by JohnGreek)
    An excellent point - people tend to forget the day-to-day annoyances of the capital (not least the sheer amount of time taken moving around and the cost of everything).


    Glad to hear that you're liking it here - I remembered your thread that was very apprehensive from a while back
    Ahah yeah, I think all the threads of people complaining scares people, but you have to realise negativity is louder than positivity and people are more likely to shout about their bad experiences than the good ones!
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    (Original post by Redmonds)
    LSE is what you make of it. I'm a first year student there and I can tell you that if you are seriously committed to academia, you will thrive here. It's a community of some of the most rigorous minds in the world (for social sciences and humanities) and you'll be lucky to be taught by professors and teachers who are world leaders in their subjects (You might even end up being taught by the same person who wrote your textbook!)

    Yes the workload is pretty tough, but what do you expect? This is a top flight world Uni.

    I never get all these negative comments about the LSE, complaining about the workload is like buying a Lamborghini and complaining that it's too fast
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    As another poster said, it is what you make of it. I have just graduated, and for me the answer is no. London can feel isolating when you live alone.


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    From what I gather, LSE is isolating, badly taught, overrun with international students, boring, and depressing.

    But you should still go, 'because it's LSE'.

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    (Original post by Abstract_Prism)
    From what I gather, LSE is isolating, badly taught, overrun with international students, boring, and depressing.

    But you should still go, 'because it's LSE'.

    For me, it was London and not LSE that was isolating. With regards to badly taught, it is almost asking whether you are a good teacher as you will be teaching yourself the entire course come exam time.The boring and depressing may be avoided by integrating yourself into societies or play a sport. Unfortunately. I did not join a single society mor sport.
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    (Original post by Abstract_Prism)
    From what I gather, LSE is isolating, badly taught, overrun with international students, boring, and depressing
    I think that you'd have a bit more credibility if you had actually studied here in the first place. "What I gather..." is nothing more than saying "from the five threads I've seen about LSE on this forum..."
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    (Original post by JohnGreek)
    I think that you'd have a bit more credibility if you had actually studied here in the first place. "What I gather..." is nothing more than saying "from the five threads I've seen about LSE on this forum..."
    I wasn't asserting that I had studied there or that what I said was fact. I meant exactly what I said: 'what I gather' does mean what I've seen from threads on TSR. And it seems people who study at LSE complain about it way more than students at other unis.
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    (Original post by Abstract_Prism)
    I wasn't asserting that I had studied there or that what I said was fact. I meant exactly what I said: 'what I gather' does mean what I've seen from threads on TSR. And it seems people who study at LSE complain about it way more than students at other unis.
    If you'd actually read any of the posts in detail, you'd see that half of them were influenced by people refusing to admit that they themselves were at fault (like blaming everyone for being anti-social when they themselves didn't bother joining any societies lol), or transposing their own pre-existing issues onto the uni (like that guy who really didn't want to go to uni but was forced to by his parents and now, surprise surprise, hates it, feels homesick, and wants to drop out).

    I'd also question how you can say that proportionately more people complain about LSE when a) the sample size on TSR is so small, b) there's obviously a selection bias in favour of those who have to say something negative, c) the posts that are negative are spread over several years (all the way back to 2010), and d) the overwhelming majority of people here have never heard of TSR, don't care about what's on it and certainly have no incentive to start posting in defence of their uni (I'm an exception because I had an account for a year and a half before starting).

    Then, of course, you seem to have no issue stating these "issues" as fact, using bold, un-nuanced language like "boring" and "many international students", without substantiating any of your claims with anything other than with the classic "I saw it on TSR" justification. You're part of a TSR bandwagon and you don't even realise it.
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    (Original post by JohnGreek)
    If you'd actually read any of the posts in detail, you'd see that half of them were influenced by people refusing to admit that they themselves were at fault (like blaming everyone for being anti-social when they themselves didn't bother joining any societies lol), or transposing their own pre-existing issues onto the uni (like that guy who really didn't want to go to uni but was forced to by his parents and now, surprise surprise, hates it, feels homesick, and wants to drop out).

    I'd also question how you can say that proportionately more people complain about LSE when a) the sample size on TSR is so small, b) there's obviously a selection bias in favour of those who have to say something negative, c) the posts that are negative are spread over several years (all the way back to 2010), and d) the overwhelming majority of people here have never heard of TSR, don't care about what's on it and certainly have no incentive to start posting in defence of their uni (I'm an exception because I had an account for a year and a half before starting).

    Then, of course, you seem to have no issue stating these "issues" as fact, using bold, un-nuanced language like "boring" and "many international students", without substantiating any of your claims with anything other than with the classic "I saw it on TSR" justification. You're part of a TSR bandwagon and you don't even realise it.
    I've already said that what I said is what I've read on TSR, nothing more. I quite readily admit that I have not studied there, and that it may not be true. I am 100% aware that I am on the 'TSR bandwagon'.

    All of your criteria from a-d can be applied to all unis. It doesn't make sense why so many more people complain about studying at LSE than anywhere else. There's no smoke without fire.
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    (Original post by Redmonds)
    LSE is what you make of it. I'm a first year student there and I can tell you that if you are seriously committed to academia, you will thrive here. It's a community of some of the most rigorous minds in the world (for social sciences and humanities) and you'll be lucky to be taught by professors and teachers who are world leaders in their subjects (You might even end up being taught by the same person who wrote your textbook!)

    Yes the workload is pretty tough, but what do you expect? This is a top flight world Uni.

    I never get all these negative comments about the LSE, complaining about the workload is like buying a Lamborghini and complaining that it's too fast
    As a 3rd year I agree with everything but the bit in bold. A lot of the time the reason your lecturer wrote the textbook isn't because they're incredibly smart (although the lecturers obviously are), but because they are smart enough to know the have a monopoly on the textbook market for their course if they wish to make it so. Nice little side earner for them...
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    (Original post by Abstract_Prism)
    I've already said that what I said is what I've read on TSR, nothing more. I quite readily admit that I have not studied there, and that it may not be true. I am 100% aware that I am on the 'TSR bandwagon'.

    All of your criteria from a-d can be applied to all unis. It doesn't make sense why so many more people complain about studying at LSE than anywhere else. There's no smoke without fire.
    That's a nice but naive way of going about things. Actually, not all of a) to d) apply to all universities. The reason why you think that LSE has proportionately larger number of complaints is because these tend to be the most hotly debated posts that are usually posted on by people like you, with the classic "omg I heard people complain about it this must be true". Other unis, with larger uni populations, and more active TSR users, have enough other threads to hide/mask the ones with negative comments. LSE's subforum, on the other hand, is dominated by two types of post: the "can I get in?", and "don't come here" sorts. It's a pretty dead forum all things considered, and that only gives more precedence to the negative reviews.

    The whole "smoke without fire" argument is idiotic, considering that you don't even know what issues there are in the first place. Most people here, believe it or not, don't go around every day thinking "urgh so many Asians why am I here". The real issues that will affect most students are minor, everyday ones, such as the inconsistency of the lecture recordings or the fact that so little of the material covered will be discussed in classes. Of course, none of these are mentioned on here, partly because of people like you who lazily make sweeping judgments about a place they have never experienced.

    Indeed, I would argue that the "smoke without fire idea" is downright dangerous, considering the fact that, as said above, many people blame the university for their own personal failings, instead of addressing them. To continue with the analogy, some people need to simply realise that they're looking at the wrong fire.
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    (Original post by JohnGreek)
    That's a nice but naive way of going about things. Actually, not all of a) to d) apply to all universities. The reason why you think that LSE has proportionately larger number of complaints is because these tend to be the most hotly debated posts that are usually posted on by people like you, with the classic "omg I heard people complain about it this must be true". Other unis, with larger uni populations, and more active TSR users, have enough other threads to hide/mask the ones with negative comments. LSE's subforum, on the other hand, is dominated by two types of post: the "can I get in?", and "don't come here" sorts. It's a pretty dead forum all things considered, and that only gives more precedence to the negative reviews.

    The whole "smoke without fire" argument is idiotic, considering that you don't even know what issues there are in the first place. Most people here, believe it or not, don't go around every day thinking "urgh so many Asians why am I here". The real issues that will affect most students are minor, everyday ones, such as the inconsistency of the lecture recordings or the fact that so little of the material covered will be discussed in classes. Of course, none of these are mentioned on here, partly because of people like you who lazily make sweeping judgments about a place they have never experienced.

    Indeed, I would argue that the "smoke without fire idea" is downright dangerous, considering the fact that, as said above, many people blame the university for their own personal failings, instead of addressing them. To continue with the analogy, some people need to simply realise that they're looking at the wrong fire.
    How do you explain how LSE is literally the worst in the UK for student satisfaction?
 
 
 
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