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    On the BBC tonight: The UK government is going to try and recapture former ISIS members and in addition to this a multiple child sex offender is being given a sentence... of four years. I think the government want there to be some sort of fascist uprising with this sort of nonsense.


    Leave Isis supporters in Syria to get their just come uppance and give convicted nonces a life sentence.
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    Are we talking a uprising of disenfranchised ex soldiers, futurists and social reactionaries , supported by capitalist elements and strongly opposed to socialist/Marxist parties attempting to create a corporatist single party state based upon palingenetic nationalism, the general promise to do away with the decadent and promising a protectionist economy based on proto-Keynesian ideas.

    Or a few kippers, tories and the Daily Mail moaning about political correctness?
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    (Original post by Aj12)
    Or a few kippers, tories and the Daily Mail moaning about political correctness?
    I don't blame them with this sort of nonsense- they're mad but not as much as the above.

    Or do you think the government should go to vast efforts (and expense) to recapture Isil recruits or/ and four years is an adequate prison sentence for a multiple sex offender?

    I don't think being strongly opposed to this necessarily means :fuhrer:


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    (Original post by Davij038)
    I don't blame them with this sort of nonsense- they're mad but not as much as the above.

    Or do you think the government should go to vast efforts (and expense) to recapture Isil recruits or/ and four years is an adequate prison sentence for a multiple sex offender?

    I don't think being strongly opposed to this necessarily means :fuhrer:


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    Well I could see the value of taking ISIS recruits for intel purposes, plus the idea that British justice can reach terrorists all around the world is an appealing one. These guys want death, no better punishment than leaving them in a cell for 40 years.

    As for the latter that's not the government's responsibility. I actually quite like living in a society where the government can't click its fingers and start messing with court cases. I often find that when you read the details of a lot of those cases you find the sentencing to be more reasonable than the shrieking moral outrage might let you believe.

    I don't dispute these are valid issues, but I don't think Aryans in sharp uniforms are about to start marching down The Mall.
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    (Original post by Aj12)
    Well I could see the value of taking ISIS recruits for intel purposes, plus the idea that British justice can reach terrorists all around the world is an appealing one. These guys want death, no better punishment than leaving them in a cell for 40 years.
    These are very low end people who generally seemed to give up once they realised what Isis really meant. They will have no valuable intelligence. Your other point is essentially a vanity point. We need more police in our own country not in Syria.

    As for the latter that's not the government's responsibility. I actually quite like living in a society where the government can't click its fingers and start messing with court cases. I often find that when you read the details of a lot of those cases you find the sentencing to be more reasonable than the shrieking moral outrage might let you believe.
    I completely agree- but still that doesn't excuse the mass of unjust laws that we have in this country, and the consequences this has for society. I don't think we'll b bringing back the Stasi if a politician argues for harsher minimum sentences for the worst offenders.



    I don't dispute these are valid issues, but I don't think Aryans in sharp uniforms are about to start marching down The Mall.
    I wasn't being serious, but it does cause me to rage sometimes when our great and good fail so spectacularly that it makes people like Neil Hamilton seem like plausible candidates.
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    I find today's politics a bit scary. Child abusers need to be stopped or they're going to keep hurting people. And in Syria... It makes my stomach turn, just wondering how terrible life must be there.


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    (Original post by Davij038)
    These are very low end people who generally seemed to give up once they realised what Isis really meant. They will have no valuable intelligence. Your other point is essentially a vanity point. We need more police in our own country not in Syria.



    I completely agree- but still that doesn't excuse the mass of unjust laws that we have in this country, and the consequences this has for society. I don't think we'll b bringing back the Stasi if a politician argues for harsher minimum sentences for the worst offenders.





    I wasn't being serious, but it does cause me to rage sometimes when our great and good fail so spectacularly that it makes people like Neil Hamilton seem like plausible candidates.
    Neil Hamilton will never be plausible


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    Neil Hamilton will never be plausible

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    I wouldn't be too sure. My dad lives in wales and he's noticed that it seems to bevylturnibg purple- Hamilton also had a lot of fans on QT the other week.

    Also it's worth considering that Donald 'grab em by the pussy' trump could be US president
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    (Original post by Davij038)
    On the BBC tonight: The UK government is going to try and recapture former ISIS members and in addition to this a multiple child sex offender is being given a sentence... of four years. I think the government want there to be some sort of fascist uprising with this sort of nonsense.


    Leave Isis supporters in Syria to get their just come uppance and give convicted nonces a life sentence.
    A rare sighting of the word 'nonce' there.

    Totally agree. We all know what happens when it appears that the Government has stopped listening to the population.
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    (Original post by Aj12)
    Are we talking a uprising of disenfranchised ex soldiers, futurists and social reactionaries , supported by capitalist elements and strongly opposed to socialist/Marxist parties attempting to create a corporatist single party state based upon palingenetic nationalism, the general promise to do away with the decadent and promising a protectionist economy based on proto-Keynesian ideas.

    Or a few kippers, tories and the Daily Mail moaning about political correctness?
    :rofl:

    I think you forgot the Illuminati.
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    (Original post by Davij038)
    Also it's worth considering that Donald 'grab em by the pussy' trump could be US president
    He could be in Toytown, which is located in Neverwhere, on the shores of the Ocean of Deep Unlikeliness.
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    (Original post by Davij038)
    On the BBC tonight: The UK government is going to try and recapture former ISIS members and in addition to this a multiple child sex offender is being given a sentence... of four years. I think the government want there to be some sort of fascist uprising with this sort of nonsense.


    Leave Isis supporters in Syria to get their just come uppance and give convicted nonces a life sentence.

    There already is a fascist uprising in England, it's called the Brexit Mafia who are there to silence and abuse anyone who dares criticise or object to Brexit. They'd outlaw the SNP and Lib dems if they had their way. There's even Mafiosi on this forum.
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    (Original post by Davij038)
    On the BBC tonight: The UK government is going to try and recapture former ISIS members and in addition to this a multiple child sex offender is being given a sentence... of four years. I think the government want there to be some sort of fascist uprising with this sort of nonsense.

    Leave Isis supporters in Syria to get their just come uppance and give convicted nonces a life sentence.
    Those who have joined ISIS should be convicted of treason and/or aiding and abetting the enemy. Law and order must be maintained.

    I agree that a rapist should have a longer sentence however that's somewhat down to sentencing law. We need a higher minimum sentence.

    (Original post by Davij038)
    I wouldn't be too sure. My dad lives in wales and he's noticed that it seems to bevylturnibg purple- Hamilton also had a lot of fans on QT the other week.

    Also it's worth considering that Donald 'grab em by the pussy' trump could be US president
    If it's any comfort there's a fair chance that all 4 Labour seats in north-east Wales will go blue in 2020, notably including Wrexham.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Those who have joined ISIS should be convicted of treason and/or aiding and abetting the enemy. Law and order must be maintained.
    Why bother when they're going to be hung by Kurds or the Syrian government? Good riddance.


    If it's any comfort there's a fair chance that all 4 Labour seats in north-east Wales will go blue in 2020, notably including Wrexham.
    I'll believe it when I see it:
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    (Original post by Davij038)
    Why bother when they're going to be hung by Kurds or the Syrian government? Good riddance.




    I'll believe it when I see it:
    The biggest swing needed is only about 8%, the national swing is well on the way to that and they could easily become target seats.

    And we bother because it sends a stronger message if WE actively punish them rather than leaving them to merely become another victim of the war.
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    (Original post by Davij038)
    Why bother when they're going to be hung by Kurds or the Syrian government? Good riddance.

    I'll believe it when I see it:
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    The biggest swing needed is only about 8%, the national swing is well on the way to that and they could easily become target seats.

    And we bother because it sends a stronger message if WE actively punish them rather than leaving them to merely become another victim of the war.
    Swing needed is only 4%, the gap is about 8% in all 4.

    And what Jammy said.
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    (Original post by Davij038)
    Leave Isis supporters in Syria to get their just come uppance and give convicted nonces a life sentence
    + Also try those responsible for actively encouraging paedophile grooming/rape/sexual slavery gangs to operate with impunity for treason
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    + Also try those responsible for actively encouraging Muslim paedophile grooming/rape/sexual slavery gangs to operate with impunity for treason
    I don't think even the worst 'waycist' Islamist apologist is encourageing it per se but turning a blind eye to it. They should definitely be tried for treason though absolutely.

    Tower Hamlets and Bradford in particular needs to be purged.
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    (Original post by Davij038)
    I don't think even the worst 'waycist' Islamist apologist is encourageing it per se but turning a blind eye to it
    If you (signal) create a landscape in which perp's feel they are untouchable so long as they prey upon socioeconomically disadvantaged 'white trash' (who may be dismissed) then you are, by definition, encouraging/facilitating predation
 
 
 
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