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    14.16%
    20%
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    8.74%
    30%
    128
    15.76%
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    18.10%
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    13.67%
    60%
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    23.15%
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    80%
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    90%
    17
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    Approx what % of UK students at Cambridge or Oxford are from state schools (comprehensives, grammars, sixth form colleges, etc)?

    It seems only 1 in 20 teachers know the answer.

    Do you? (Vote in the poll before checking ! )

    https://www.theguardian.com/educatio...pils-interview
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    I got it right! :excited:

    I wonder what that is compared to how many of the general population go to state/private schools?
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    I already knew it was 60%, but in the general population 93% of students go to state schools, but that falls to 82% of sixth formers.
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    (Original post by Fox Corner)
    I got it right! :excited:

    I wonder what that is compared to how many of the general population go to state/private schools?
    Congrats!

    Only approx 20% of over 16s go to private schools, so yes they are over-represented at Oxbridge but the proportion of state to private is "improving".
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    I thought it was lower than it actually is.
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    This is actually more than I expected.
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    (Original post by Kvothe the Arcane)
    I thought it was lower than it actually is.
    (Original post by SM6)
    This is actually more than I expected.
    Which is what most think too, including teachers.

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    (Original post by jneill)
    Which is what most think too, including teachers.

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    Yeah. Usually I've heard from a lot of people that their teachers usually aren't supportive of applying to Oxbridge in state schools.
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    (Original post by jneill)
    Approx what % of UK students at Cambridge or Oxford are from state schools (comprehensives, grammars, sixth form colleges, etc)?

    It seems only 1 in 20 teachers know the answer.

    Do you? (Vote in the poll before checking ! )

    https://www.theguardian.com/educatio...pils-interview
    The statistics tend to obscure some issues though - state-vs-private schooling isn't the only marker for inequality. Actually, when you look at household incomes as the indicator, all of Britain's top universities have become markedly less equal over the last 25 years and the Russell Group ones particularly so.
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    I knew it was 60% but I've always found the fact people skip over grammar school's overrepresentation at Oxbridge quite odd - there's representation problems inside the state sector too. Obviously, you'd expect grammar schools to have an edge on non selective state schools but then the same logic applies to private schools (which are often selective too - especially the ones famous for getting people into Oxbridge). I live near one of the most successful non selective sixth forms for Oxbridge entry but secret is like 10/20% of their cohort are originally from private school... However once applied the chances of someone getting in are reasonably similar independent of type of school which is fortunate
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    (Original post by ♥Samantha♥)
    I already knew it was 60%, but in the general population 93% of students go to state schools, but that falls to 82% of sixth formers.
    89% of all UK university entrants went to state school: https://www.hesa.ac.uk/data-and-anal...cators/summary :cool:
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    (Original post by PQ)
    89% of all UK university entrants went to state school: https://www.hesa.ac.uk/data-and-anal...cators/summary :cool:
    Ooh. Thanks.

    Is there a chart showing state schooled university entrants % over time for Oxbridge, RG, and overall?

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    Scary that one in ten respondents to this poll thought that the proportion of Oxbridge students educated at a state school was 10%.
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    What proportion of those state school students attended grammar schools, out of curiosity? Anyone know?
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    (Original post by jneill)
    Ooh. Thanks.

    Is there a chart showing state schooled university entrants % over time for Oxbridge, RG, and overall?

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    Not on the website - the data is all public domain but it's all in separate spreadsheets for each year.

    And I'm a sad muppet so....

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    (Original post by PQ)
    Not on the website - the data is all public domain but it's all in separate spreadsheets for each year.

    And I'm a sad muppet so....

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    You just did those graphs, didn't you?

    You can take the boy out of Oxbridge...
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    (Original post by Reality Check)
    You just did those graphs, didn't you?

    You can take the boy out of Oxbridge...
    a) I'm not a boy
    b) I didn't go to oxbridge (I didn't even apply :eek3: )

    (but c) yes I did)
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    (Original post by elen90)
    What proportion of those state school students attended grammar schools, out of curiosity? Anyone know?
    From Sutton Trust here (http://www.suttontrust.com/wp-conten...s-01.02.16.pdf) 20% of state school students at Oxbridge were from grammar schools, meaning overall they made up 12% of entrants. With only ~5% of students in UK attending grammar schools
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    (Original post by PQ)
    a) I'm not a boy
    b) I didn't go to oxbridge (I didn't even apply :eek3: )

    (but c) yes I did)
    1 out of 3 ain't bad

    Sorry for making assumptions. A bad habit, non? The graph is useful, by the way.
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    (Original post by elen90)
    What proportion of those state school students attended grammar schools, out of curiosity? Anyone know?
    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    The statistics tend to obscure some issues though - state-vs-private schooling isn't the only marker for inequality. Actually, when you look at household incomes as the indicator, all of Britain's top universities have become markedly less equal over the last 25 years and the Russell Group ones particularly so.
    It always seems odd to me that grammar schools are lumped into the same category as comprehensive schools. I would have thought people interested in the education system would have looked into this one.
 
 
 
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